"Rightwing settlers and extremist nationalist Zionists in Israel have described top officials in Donald Trump’s new administration as a 'dream team' which will offer a 'unique and special opportunity' to expand Israel’s hold on occupied territory and p...

[tofugolem@mastodon.social]

@wdlindsy
Of course. Trump is a rapist, a degenerate, likely a pedophile, completely dishonest, racist, only cares about wealthy people, and a traitor.

In short, he is the conservative Christian ideal, morally-speaking.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@old_hippie That's my viewpoint.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@zemsgram Thank you. I second your questions.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@tofugolem So it would appear.

[alarod@mstdn.social]

@wdlindsy No wonder all of the intelligent people left Christianity. It has turned into the devil’s work. Lucifer keeps casting Legion into a Herd of Swine. Hurry with the cliff!

[coldfish@sfba.social]

@wdlindsy although, the "not me! not my church!" people are almost as bad as cops who stand around while another cop is beating the crap of some helpless person. "I'm a good cop! I didn't like what he did" "I waved a rainbow flag, see??"

But you know what the "good christians" didn't do? They stood aside and let this shit happen. They could have made a massive showing and said, not Trump, but those *churches* are not Christian. That those *churches* do not speak for them. That those *churches* teach hate and not love.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@coldfish I agree. I wrote something about that very matter on Facebook just yesterday.

[jeffreysmith@mastdn.social]

@wdlindsy

I'm an old guy who detests Mr. Trump, and voted accordingly. I was just making the point that if one wants to garner votes, one shouldn't facilitate the murder of the relatives of tens of thousands of reliable democratic voters in a swing state. The real impact seems, as Sen. Sanders indicates, is that 11 million people who voted for Pres. Biden in 2020, stayed home. Why did progressives stay home? Pres. Biden/ VP Harris facilitating a genocide seems one reason.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@JeffreySmith I just want to be clear on the point you're making. You're saying that Biden is the problem but not Trump? You're saying that the choice to vote against Biden and Harris in order to protect and assist the Palestinians was a good choice that promises to make things better for them, right? You're saying that if people make a bad choice that affects lots of others, we should never hold them accountable for that bad choice or point out how wrong it was? Right?

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@Alarod But I know some brilliant people who are strongly committed Christians — William J. Barber comes immediately to mind.

[jeffreysmith@mastdn.social]

@wdlindsy

There is plenty of blame to go around. Our system provided a choice between someone perpetrating a genocide, and someone happy to perpetrate a genocide (s). Until idealistic progressives are offered a better choice, is it surprising so many (11 million) stayed at home. Mr. Trump's maga base is stabile: it is our job to reengage, as Sen. Sanders notes, those progressives who didn't vote. Blaming them for the loss is counter productive IMHO. We can't shame people into voting.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@JeffreySmith Blame and shame are your words. I don't recall having used them. I speak instead of taking accountability for our actions and our bad decisions, and when those decisions do harm to many others, being willing to admit that we behaved foolishly and harmed others.