Mastodon is notoriously a difficult place for new users to establish themselves and learn their way around.
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aimeereplied to Natasha Nox ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธ last edited by
@Natanox @jstevenyork definitely this as well! as someone currently learning about the importance of discoverability in user experience, iโve been curious about other peopleโs thoughts on mastodonโs whole onboarding experienceโฆ i thought i was just being a silly goose the first couple of days, but i was relieved to see fellow users express their confusion ๐ฅด
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J. Steven York RESISTSreplied to aimee last edited by
@twoglances @Natanox
Not just you at all! It's not THAT hard, but it requires taking the right steps and having some patience, and by default, Mastodon pretty much just leaves new users flailing around at the dark. Either the software needs to go better, or the community needs to get better (or both), and that's what I've somehow found myself the advocate for this week. But this week I'm a man in need of a mission, and this will do! -
Natasha Nox ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธreplied to J. Steven York RESISTS last edited by [email protected]
@jstevenyork @twoglances The more people poke @Gargron about this, the more likely it is for him to finally revamp the registration / onboarding. He gets criticized for it ever since the Mastodon app exists (especially after deciding to shovel everyone towards his single instance, and even more after he signed Meta's NDA regarding Threads), but most seems to get ignored.
Pretty sure he already muted me as well.
Edit: "Profile unavailable" - yeah, seems like I criticized him too harshly.
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Khleedrilreplied to The Yangsi Michael Dillon last edited by
@anantagd @Natanox @Nalyd620 @jstevenyork I don't understand this as I haven't found the instance to make much difference to my browsing experience; I hardly ever look at the local time-line, just my own filters (including @lisamelton
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The Yangsi Michael Dillonreplied to Khleedril last edited by
@khleedril @Natanox @Nalyd620 @jstevenyork @lisamelton I want an instance that is well moderated, not too large and that doesn't federate with threads. If I donate to an instance, I want it to be an instance I feel comfortable about
mastodon.social is none of those things.
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J. Steven York RESISTSreplied to The Yangsi Michael Dillon last edited by
@anantagd @Natanox @Nalyd620
I'm glad your experience was good, but it isn't for everyone. We're mostly an echo-chamber of people who got through here (and welcome to the newbies), but I have to dabble in the outside word, and I keep running into these awful takes on Mastondon from people who DIDN'T get over the hump.... -
J. Steven York RESISTSreplied to The Yangsi Michael Dillon last edited by
@anantagd @Natanox @Nalyd620
If you look at account growth vs. actual activity and active accounts, it's clear there's a large scale break. It would be best fixed in refining the software, but that's not happening soon. Social support is the obvious short-term fix, and evidence is, our culture here isn't good at it. That's what I'd like to change, at least to encourage enough people to be "ambassadors" here to make them easy to find. -
The Yangsi Michael Dillonreplied to J. Steven York RESISTS last edited by
@jstevenyork @Natanox @Nalyd620 I'm not sure I want mastodon as a large scale network. Fedi and AP offer that level of connection without having to go the centralized social media route.
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Natasha Nox ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธreplied to The Yangsi Michael Dillon last edited by
@anantagd @jstevenyork @Nalyd620 We should clear up our definitions at this point. There's nothing bad about a lot more Mastodon instances with lots of users, however everyone being on mastodon.social is.
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Natasha Nox ๐บ๐ฆ๐ต๐ธreplied to J. Steven York RESISTS last edited by
@jstevenyork @anantagd @Nalyd620 An extremely important perspective, I see this constantly as well. We need to be better, make safe software and services accessible without going down the same slippery slope of tech paternalism we see in commercial software.