This is (even more) aggro than I'd be about React (and, surprisingly, religion), but this line is the pure, uncut truth:
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This is (even more) aggro than I'd be about React (and, surprisingly, religion), but this line is the pure, uncut truth:
"React is useful for making complex interfaces like Facebook’s or for making otherwise simple interfaces, and their underlying codebases, complex like Facebook’s."
Christ on a cracker, @heydon; leave something for the rest of us!
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Norm Tovey-Walshreplied to Alex Russell last edited by
@slightlyoff @heydon I've had one brush with React. Simple four page app that needed some CSS and a tiny bit of JavaScript to render some charts. Management insisted React was necessary. Two years later, it still didn't work.
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Large Heydon Colliderreplied to Alex Russell last edited by
@slightlyoff Thanks for watching Alex. Hope you didn’t mind me linking to your Reckoning series.
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Alex Russellreplied to Large Heydon Collider last edited by
@heydon Not at all! Also, hadn't clocked how great some of your merch is. Choices, choices....
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Marijke Luttekesreplied to Norm Tovey-Walsh last edited by
@ndw @slightlyoff @heydon Management should be managing and leave the technical decisions to people who do know what they are talking about (and the other way around).
Although with all the React fanfolk these days, you would probably have ended up with the same result.
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Norm Tovey-Walshreplied to Marijke Luttekes last edited by
@mahryekuh @slightlyoff @heydon Yeah. Well. There was some dysfunction there. In a couple of dimensions. If I'd known at the start what I knew at the end, ... but that's true of lots of things!
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Marijke Luttekesreplied to Norm Tovey-Walsh last edited by
@ndw @slightlyoff @heydon A common saying: With today's knowledge, we would have done things differently in the past.
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Mike Shaver 🤷🏼♂️replied to Alex Russell last edited by
@slightlyoff @heydon it’s the kubernetes of FE development
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Ted Mielczarekreplied to Mike Shaver 🤷🏼♂️ last edited by
@shaver @slightlyoff @heydon spot-on: the tech that enables hyperscaling, but when applied to smaller problems the only thing it scales is your problems.
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Mike Shaver 🤷🏼♂️replied to Ted Mielczarek last edited by
@tedmielczarek @slightlyoff @heydon if your organization could not seriously consider building a basic version of React/k8s itself, it is not equipped to deal with the complexity costs they will incur
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@shaver @tedmielczarek @slightlyoff @heydon the sad thing is the company I've worked at would totally try and make both of these despite being completely unequipped to deal with the complexity.
And when you're stuck with a buggy, barely maintained in-house react knockoff, the real thing starts to look kinda appealing because at least it has real documentation and answers on stack overflow...
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@p4 @tedmielczarek @slightlyoff @heydon yeah I guess “consider” might not be a high enough bar
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Alex Russellreplied to Mike Shaver 🤷🏼♂️ last edited by
@shaver @p4 @tedmielczarek @heydon I've phrased this as "if your team couldn't field strip and reassemble React, blindfolded, it probably isn't ready for that much complexity". Teams I've seen succeed with it generally meet that bar.