i guess it makes sense that part of being IT is having some very basic knowledge about electrical circuits otherwise you're not going to last very long

Amber

Jen :TransButterfly: :3hearts:

@puppygirlhornypost2 The fact that you have those stories implies that most IT professionals are simply lucky.

How many of them involve the sentence "removed the LOTO tag?"

Amber

@[email protected] so one of the things you learn in IT is that you need to use the https://www.amazon.com/fiberglass-wire-pull-rods/s?k=fiberglass+wire+pull+rods fiberglass pull rod instead of anything conductive. this is because clients will tell you "there's no live wire in there" and you'll quite literally die if there's a mistake in that. I know of an anecdote our printer repair technician told me, about a kid who was new to everything pushing cable through and he hit some live wires... the problem is these weren't your normal 120v 15a circuits like you'd find residential I believe it was >480v and with a lot of amperage. The kid left the site in a body bag. so yeah, it's not even necessarily that sysadmins are going around removing lock out tags it's the fact that our clients will say "oh there's no conductors in this" and you'll find out they have LIVE 3 phase (480v is 3 phase) conductors in conduit that they told you was for telecom.

Amber

@[email protected] i was told this when i was the same age as the kid too and yeah no i hate puling wire through conduit lol

Jen :TransButterfly: :3hearts:

@puppygirlhornypost2 "The wire is always live" sounds like something Gambatte tells his PFYs right after "a job is not complete until it's tested."

But yeah, that's a good point. Some learning experiences, only other folks get to learn from.

bite reliability engineer

@SymTrkl @puppygirlhornypost2 always assume every wire is loaded, keep your hands off the wire until you're safe to work on it,

Amber

@[email protected] @[email protected] in this specific case the assumption was the conduit was completely empty

Amber

@[email protected] @[email protected] what made this even worse- this was a site in construction so…

Jen :TransButterfly: :3hearts:

@puppygirlhornypost2 aaand the addition of contractors just turned this from a horror story to me nodding along like "oh that makes sense."

(Usually it's the framers taunting death, though.)
@astrid

Amber

@[email protected] @[email protected] it's still a horror story considering there were numerous professionals on site and the kid should not have just been left alone to do that

Amber

@[email protected] @[email protected] genuinely, who sends a 19 year alone to go pull wire through conduit in a construction site (it was more or less completed the building was there it was just doing things like installing networking cable)

Jen :TransButterfly: :3hearts:

@puppygirlhornypost2 Who does that without a safety lecture? The more I think of it, the more mad I am at the supervisors that failed that kid.
@astrid

Amber

@[email protected] @[email protected] there is a reason the place was swarmed with osha shortly after and the entire site was halted from continuing

All Purpose Cultural Catgirl Vari-Vari :neobot:

@puppygirlhornypost2 @[email protected] @[email protected] I hope there was some legal and financial liability there for the gross negligence...not that it would actually make up for the death but at least something for the poor PFY's family...

Amber

@varimbehphen @[email protected] @[email protected] no idea, my printer technician friend was sent back because there was nothing for him to do since the site had been closed. he didn’t know what ended up happening