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It hasn't lost its effect. It never had an effect to begin with on the people that this cunt was sieg heiling because they are happy to downplay the very real and very obvious fascist elements of the American right. Saying the word Nazi has lost its effect makes this sound like the issue is one of semantics, as though if that word hadn't (wholly and justifiably) been used so much in recent decades that people would now wake up and go, 'Oh fuck, this guy is actually really bad'. But they wouldn't. Because fascists don't think other fascists are bad.

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Mostly what I see are pedants who keep arguing that actually it's a coyote circling the chickens, and that calling it a wolf de-legitimizes actually crying wolf, and that wolves had a very specific platform, and all the while the coyote is getting closer to the fucking henhouse.

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by your definition words lose meaning when they're overused.

if that's the case then why has the "n" word never lost its strength as an oppressive word?

I think it's because words don't lose meaning. I think it's because Nazis brainwash people into thinking labeling Nazis as Nazis is wrong and should be used to label real assholes. problem with that is that Nazis come in many forms.

So..I'll keep calling Nazis, Nazis, and you keep disagreeing with me.

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I know, it's the response from red shirt. He doesn't listen to the guy calling out the nazi, explaining how it's probably just overexaggeration.

It's similar to the ending of the boy who cried wolf. It's not that most people like wolves, or side with wolves, or think wolves aren't a threat. It's the person that that yells wolf is ignored when the real deal comes around.

I'm don't like nazis. At all. But there is certainly an argument that the term had been used too loosely (I was just called one in this comment section ffs) and now people are making nazi salutes in DC and are being ignored.

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Yeah I get that they would try to make noise to hide in. But I imagine that is not the majority of cases where someone is labeled as a nazi. Note this was from 2010, long before Trump entered politics.

And this isn't to say I like, support or side with them it's just people ignore the term after a while of hearing it everywhere for all kinds of things that don't fit

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This isn't a case of the boy crying wolf. You fucks have been warned and have ignored the warnings. Now here we are.

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why has the "n" word never lost its strength as an oppressive word?

Tbf, it has to an extent, hence the "A" VS "hard R" distinction. The power was taken back as they say through repeated usage, some would call overuse, by that community. Other communities still aren't allowed to say it sure, but it did contextually lose power through overuse.

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It was literally the nazis who got centrists to "water-down" the word nazi.

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Intentional Stonetoss expression at the end?

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That guy doesn't look like Joe Biden

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Shut up Nazi

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No, he's still wrong. Even if he has been conditioned to ignore the term because of overuse of the term, he's still wrong.

The people who ignored the boy the third time he cried wolf were wrong. The proof they were wrong is that they lost their sheep. The moral of the story isn't "don't listen when little boys cry wolf three times and the first two times turn out to be false." The moral is "don't cry wolf when there is no wolf or people will stop listening to you."

So you can argue that the people who conditioned red shirt not too look were wrong, i.e. "the boy who cried Nazi", but in this case red shirt is most definitely wrong.

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I was thinking the same thing

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That is exactly what I am trying to convey, thank you.

Red shirt is wrong for ignoring the pointing person. The person pointing out the nazi is right. I am trying to argue that the person pointing out the nazi and the people who conditioned red shirt to the point of ignoring a legitimate cry are not the same and ultimately did not help things.

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I have changed nothing, and like a lightswitch every fucking post in almost every goddammit community seems to be about nazis and us politics to some new extreme degree.

Jesus fucking christ. Doomscrolling and endlessly worrying about it all is fucking toxic as shit. It is what it is. If people are so concerned and think it needs to change then get off the fucking phone and go DO something about it, or stop posting this kind of shit.

Gets so fucking old so fast.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one! It's so good!

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Normalizing fascism.

The sooner we accept we've reached that stage, the sooner we can do something about it.

I'm not holding my breath.

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I have changed nothing,

Yeah, it's almost like this isn't about you. It's almost like it's about a major world power openly embracing fascism and neo nazis.

Get off the internet if it bothers you.

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Found the 1930s era German that said "it is what it is".

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My Lemmy blocklist has literally tripled since yesterday lol.