btw if you're planning on protesting a talk, the easiest way is to pull the fire alarm
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@tef I too will not be at fossem
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@Foxboron those volunteers can have principles and threaten to pull their labour over this in the hopes or resolving this without further disruption, or they can abide by it, and hopefully the keynote ends up being disrupted by someone with a moral backbone. For that matter, so can any speakers if they wish to stand for anything other than vague handwaving about opensource.
If neither volunteers nor speakers look likely to make a stand and force the issue… well, they are ok with the possible disruption or are ok with jack being there, either way it perpetuates the single minded goal chasing that has led to FOSS being entirely meaningless as anything but free labour for corporations.
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I know some volunteers are not happy about this at all, and I suspect we haven't seen the consequences play out yet.
It seems like it has already been removed as a promoted keynote, and delegated to a main track slot.
Personally I hope the talk gets pulled.
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@Foxboron and part of the pressure that makes that happen is the very threat of disruptive action - which is why the thought of the entirety of fosdem being affected over this talk is motivating.
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To be clear, I'm fully on board with disruptive action. I intend to protest the talk if it gets held.
I'm only drawing a line where the protest threatens the conference as a whole.
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@Foxboron your position was clear, and that’s the source of disagreement. Protest that doesn’t meaningfully disrupt is at most a nuisance and easily worked around, and lecturing people about why protest shouldn’t be disruptive to other people who didn’t care enough to push back is not the most useful thing to do (and pretty sure why you got blocked)
Tis all, I will not seek to change your mind further.
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@kevingranade @Foxboron I think the organizers saw $$$ and didn't think about the consequences, which is weird for people who work in FOSS.
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FOSDEM does not sell talk slots to sponsors. They have been consistent about this for over 20 years.
This talk was most likely pushed through by someone from the content team.
