"January 30th 1933 dawned cold and clear in Berlin as Adolph Hitler took his oath of office and promised Germans he would uphold the constitution.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
“Foreign visitors who concerned themselves with the plight of the Jews — and the majority did not — had to deal with an unanswerable question. How is it possible for these warm-hearted, genial people, noted for their work ethic and devotion to family values, to treat so many of their fellow Germans, with such contempt and cruelty?”
~ Julia Boyd, Travelers in the Third Reich, The Rise of Fascism (NY: Pegasus, 2018), p. 372
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
“People voted for Hitler as they voted for Putin and Trump, because they didn’t want to give up their own privileges. This isn’t a matter of ignorance. They understand exactly the price of enlightenment: that the equality of humankind means the equality of humankind, and not only after I’ve secured my own comfort."
Susan Neiman, Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil (Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 2019), p. 56, citing Bettina Stangneth
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by [email protected]
“What had come out on top in Germany might occur in darkest Russia or the Balkans, but surely not in their law-abiding country. What had happened? That was the question raised on all sides, but no one had an answer."
~ Joachim Fest, Not I: Memoirs of a German Childhood, trans. Martin Chalmers (NY: Other Press, 2012), p. 100
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
“A nation, they said, that had produced Goethe, Schiller and Lessing, Bach, Mozart, and so many others, would simply be incapable of barbarism. Griping at the Jews, prejudice, there had always been that, they thought. But not violent persecution.”
~ Ibid., p. 181
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by [email protected]
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.”
~ Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Tolitarianism, p. 474
#Trump #JDVance #Republicans #fascism #lies #disinformation
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Kim Scheinbergreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
I've reread 'Who Goes Nazi' every year for the last decade. It says something (not flattering) about me that I knew nothing about the context in which it was written. (I'd also watched Casablanca a dozen times before noticing it was made in 1942. It's a very different film knowing it was written before anyone knew how the war would end.)Thanks for sharing this. It's probably a good time to revisit my two lists:
1. Who will hide me in an attic
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“[Bettina Stangneth is] not convinced that Germans have faced the worst fact about the Nazi period: not the ignorant masses, but the educated elites were the driving forces behind the regime. ...
Ir wasn’t an unwashed, unlettered mob, but hundreds of well-off and well-read students, and their professors, who gleefully followed the Nazis’ first orders."
~ Susan Neiman, Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil (Farrar, Straus & Giroux, 2019), pp. 55, 274
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Martin Vermeer FCDreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Pamelareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy This indifference is like a societal cancer. Today we see our society in a relapse with the 33%+ percent we witness daily supporting a platform that targets "others" for hate, rounding up, and deporting or extermination. We can defeat this but we MUST acknowledge there are those among US that would happily participate in this atrocity. Where are you in this, your vote will tell US!!!
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Pamela last edited by
@luv_wins Yes, I very much agree. This is good analysis. And the apathy has been deliberately cultivated by a hard-right movement that wants us to feel helpless and hopeless and to opt out of democratic participation.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Martin Vermeer FCD last edited by
@martinvermeer @mloxton Thank you. I must confess that I have never read it — and need to do so. Have read much about it and excerpts from it, but have not read the book itself.
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Markus Sugarhill :breadpats:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy published on substack. oh irony...
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Scotty Treesreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy my God we are about to be so fucked.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Kim Scheinberg last edited by
@kims It's heinous that we have to ask those questions, isn't it? That we have to live in fear that our own neighbors or family members might turn us in? And have to wonder who will shelter us? I go through these questions, too, as an openly gay man who has tried to make his voice heard against political and religious oppression, who knows full well from what was done to the Jewish people in the Nazi period that things can turn on a dime.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊 last edited by
@theogrin Thank you. Isn't it interesting how attacks on free circulation of books and libraries — and now Internet Archive — are with us all over again as fascism marches everywhere?
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Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Interesting, yes. Surprising, no.
I swear, every single godsbedamned politician yelling their lungs out about 'free speech' is working, openly or otherwise, to shut down every library in the world.
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Kim Scheinbergreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
I don't keep that list out of fear. I keep it as a means of updating my address book. It has cost me more than a few friends of many years, and brought me closer to those I once thought of as acquaintancesThe fear that keeps me awake at night isn't about wondering who will hide me in an attic. It's the worry that my attic is too small for all the people — friends and strangers alike — that I am prepared to hide
With apologies to Spielberg, "We're gonna need a bigger attic..."
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Pamelareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I've also noted those hurling the "Woke" label as an insult are really wanting US not to be "aware"! They've co opted our Media into scrubbing clean Trumpie 's 'hate speak' into palatable sound bites his uninformed cultists can blare out without getting the overt retaliation it deserves!!!
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Peet Tetterooreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy How many students in the past have paid attention to the 1930 - 1945 period in their schoolbooks .. how many of them are aware of the holocaust, the Nazi culture and the unscrupulous behavior of the Germans during that period .. not interesting for them .. Only 48.6% of USA citizens have a passport to travel internationally
Not many have visited the former concentration camps in Germany Poland etc.. Read project 2025 or a summary of it and you will know..
How Many Americans Own Passport? The Percentages, State by State
This map shows percentage of population has passports in each state of the United States. Percentage of population has passports in the United States: 48.36% Total number of passports in the United States: 149,359,051
ChartsBin (chartsbin.com)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Pamela last edited by
@luv_wins Yes, you're exactly right.