Scifi was created by neurodivergents and co-opted by normies.
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If the authors believed magic and the gods to be real, would ancient works like The Epic of Gilgamesh or The Iliad count as science fiction?
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I don't really think so, unless you have a very broad definition of neurodivergence. In which case, yeah sure most all art is made by people who are not balanced happy individuals, now too. If you don't have that black hole of need inside you, you don't need to fill it.
HG Wells
Jules Verne
Mary Shelley
L Frank Baum
HeinleinThey seem like regular minded people just brilliant. I don't think of anyone as a "normie" though, my definition of normal is either it has to be broad enough to encompass a majority of the population, or it's meaningless because nobody is identical to anyone else, all broken in our own way and strong in our own way.
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The worm criticizes the hawk for crawling improperly.
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I don't really think so, unless you have a very broad definition of neurodivergence. In which case, yeah sure most all art is made by people who are not balanced happy individuals, now too. If you don't have that black hole of need inside you, you don't need to fill it.
HG Wells
Jules Verne
Mary Shelley
L Frank Baum
HeinleinThey seem like regular minded people just brilliant. I don't think of anyone as a "normie" though, my definition of normal is either it has to be broad enough to encompass a majority of the population, or it's meaningless because nobody is identical to anyone else, all broken in our own way and strong in our own way.
Black hole of need?
How about just different shapes of people, with differing tastes. Some obsess over money. Others over art.
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Black hole of need?
How about just different shapes of people, with differing tastes. Some obsess over money. Others over art.
Sure, but happy satisfied people aren't usually the ones who progress humanity forward in art or sport. I wouldn't describe it as neurodivergence, but do think it's the people who have a need that most of us don't.
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I view the begining of scif as the 60s maybe late 50s.
If you're making a point about pulp sci fi, the golden era of sci fi was in the early 40s, and there was plenty of pulp sci fi in the decades before then.
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You know, you're both right.
modern sci-fi is indeed a collective thing that has evolved from its roots. The seed that grew into sci-fi was indeed Mary Shelley.
However, that depends on the term modern meaning something different from sci-fi as a whole, and when you cut off the start point of modern. If you count all science based fiction as modern, then Shelley is the defining origin.
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Man, you very clearly don't know what neurodivergent means.
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Man, you very clearly don't know what neurodivergent means.
Oh fuck off - and read a book!
Every character in every book I listed is neurodivergent by the definition on Wikipedia.
There's no winning with some people. What a waste of a comment.
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Oh fuck off - and read a book!
Every character in every book I listed is neurodivergent by the definition on Wikipedia.
There's no winning with some people. What a waste of a comment.
Lol, said the guy that thinks neurodivergent is when from a different culture or ignorant.
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Man, you very clearly don't know what neurodivergent means.
This comment is useless. Why don't you start a discussion by giving some reason why you think none of the examples given are neurodivergent?
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I don't really think so, unless you have a very broad definition of neurodivergence. In which case, yeah sure most all art is made by people who are not balanced happy individuals, now too. If you don't have that black hole of need inside you, you don't need to fill it.
HG Wells
Jules Verne
Mary Shelley
L Frank Baum
HeinleinThey seem like regular minded people just brilliant. I don't think of anyone as a "normie" though, my definition of normal is either it has to be broad enough to encompass a majority of the population, or it's meaningless because nobody is identical to anyone else, all broken in our own way and strong in our own way.
Sure, "neurovanilla" people
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If keeping body parts is a sign of neurodivergence then lots of religious people are neurodivergent.
Having body parts (finger, bones, organs) from holy people or saints as relics is extremely common. -
I can tell this means a lot to you. I prefer science fiction tho.
In what way does taste determine the genre of a work of fiction?
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No she wasn't. Frankenstein was published in 1818, Percy Shelley died in 1822. She did have multiple stillborn children, the first of which was within the year prior to the initial first draft of the story, plus she blamed herself for the postpartum death of her own mother. Percy helped edit Frankenstein, he wasn't dead yet.
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The addition of electricity is the only reason anyone calls it scifi
Biology is science. Medical science is science. The lack of robots and computers does not disqualify it as sci-fi. It's a piece of speculative fiction asking "what if these medical advances led to the creation of a new life?" That's science fiction.
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In what way does taste determine the genre of a work of fiction?
You misunderstand. I offered that "what matters a lot to you" is a matter of taste.
