Selling out

deaf_fish

I think you're trolling me because you don't have a good counter argument and you are mad.

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Wait what was the ethical dilemma working with NASA?

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"iTs YoUr FaULT" no it isn't my fault psycopaths with delusions of grandeur wants to invade any country weak enough in their eyes.

I actually don't like it either but I'm still correct.

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More or less the same you'd have working for Grumen or Lockheed. NASA wind tunnels were often critical tools in developing more efficient drone designs, for example. The product is the data, and you get no say in how that data is used.

deaf_fish

So you would be ok with your family starving because you won't work for military corporation? If true I admire your dedication, but I couldn't do go through with it.

deaf_fish

Hmm, I haven't found any historical examples of specific threats against families. I am a bit surprised, if they are willing to kill workers, why not also threaten their families?

Also my statement was corpos in general. So it was a systemic argument.

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I'm not mad, I however think you are concocting absurd hypotheticals to make yourself feel better for some reason.

Owl

Damn, that’s a long ass wall pf text for a two letter company

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Owl

SPACE healthcare instead !

Noble Shift

I work in offensive infosec for the Financial Crimes & Bribery division at Interpol in France on a remote contract.

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Try not working for Lockheed Martin? That's a good first step.

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so quit ur job lmao???? incredible that you are able to be so eloquent with how you are abusing people in your work and display no remorse? (hope this is a joke if it is no hate)

deaf_fish

Done, what's next?

deaf_fish

I feel great right now. But I am concerned I may have to make a choice between providing for my family or making excellent software for lockheed martin at some time in the future. My price is my family's well being and that isn't really a secret.

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Okay? Good for you, you are a somewhat less principled person than some others. Not sure what you're arguing about.

deaf_fish

I'm not arguing with you yet, because the only thing you have done is ask me a troll question. All I know is that you don't like what I have said, but you are too much of a coward to state your own position.

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Remember, you are just a cog in a machine, it just happens to be a death machine.

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I try to stay practical about it. A screwdriver manufacturer is not an arms dealer. But if your work only has value in the violent world of war, then I think it’s worth asking yourself if you’re comfortable with that. I don’t always disparage people that are, even though I certainly couldn’t stomach it.

My rule of thumb is to ask whether the defense industry is the only customer for the product. The company I work for does sell some to defense, but the products were not designed with defense as the primary purpose. It still doesn’t feel great to me, but I’m finding it increasingly difficult to avoid defense funding nowadays.

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No, I moved on. The money was amazing though.

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I thought I stated my opinion pretty clearly. I can do it again for you. It is disingenuous to say that everyone has a price, that's just something people say to make themselves feel better. Everyone needs to look at themselves and their principles and make a decision based on their beliefs and their situation. But saying "if I didn't someone else would, anyone would do the same, everyone has a price etc..." is a cop-out.