"I believe this election turned out the way it did in no small part because a large number of Americans are now submerged in new factories of lies more insidious than anything Orwell imagined,"

[lightfiar@med-mastodon.com]

@wdlindsy PS--a forensic analysis of WHY dems lost so horribly needs to be part of moving forward. Where we agree--the media are utter SHIT. Including the Trumpington Post that featured a dozen stories a day about the asshole and left Harris with nothing--typical of media. Where we disagree--that the Dems themselves are not living up to their stated claims and images. E.g.,
https://medium.com/the-new-climate/post-us-election-the-contrarian-take-on-climate-2ba24101b2c9

[photoncollector@mastodon.social]

@wdlindsy
It mainly turned out the way that it did because of the massive rampant, poverty in the US.
People wrongly thought that Trump might solve it.

Just a moment...

(medium.com)

[midnightwildflower@universeodon.com]

@wdlindsy @lolonurse

I do not know what the general Trump supporter population heard, but I know one person who was well aware of the Hitler comparison (they kept bringing it up). To them, Hitler was a horrible person who killed millions of people, so the comparison to Trump was absurd.

These people have been fed a steady diet of fear, anger, and hatred, all wrapped in the belief that Trump is being victimized by everyone. For those who believe what Hitler did, it probably came across as hysterical fear-mongering.

[paninid@mastodon.world]

@wdlindsy @skua
the fall of every empire begins with a hungry peasant

[moxiegrrl@mindly.social]

@wdlindsy YES. This is one of the reasons why I've been asking why we're giving them echo chambers so nonchalantly. They bought mainstream media to create a reality where it is no longer an unbiased source, delegitimizing journalists that work for them and forcing fake neutrality to make their bad faith arguments sound legitimate while questioning the integrity of the left. This causes people on both sides to abandon this media and the right gets funneled further down into the echo chamber.

[dannotdaniel@hellions.cloud]

@wdlindsy

[contrasocial@mastodon.social]

@wdlindsy

Boomers and GenX are definitely neck deep in propaganda.

This election has been like trying to explain to your uncle how to use a computer.

"No...just click on "popular working class policy"...no, not Genocide....down at the bottom on the bar, past Corporate Handout...right, now just click...christ, LEFT click."

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@contrasocial Sorry, but I mute when people start slinging around personal slurs, e.g., attacks on Boomers when 56% of men between the ages of 18 and 29 voted for Trump. Thanks for understanding my choice to mute.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@dannotdaniel I agree — excellent commentary.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@moxiegrrl I agree. Excellent analysis.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@paninid @skua Yes.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@midnightwildflower @lolonurse Yes, it's clear that Trump has magical cult status for his followers, so that he stands apart in a single category and can't be compared to anyone. And Hitler's followers and Mussolini's thought exactly the ssame about them.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@photoncollector Poverty? Rampant poverty? And as we have learned from lots of recent history, the Republicans are, of course, very committed to addressing the needs of poor people. Right? One would have to inhabit an unreality bubble to pretend anything of that sort.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@LightFIAR The media are utter SHIT, yet your blame-the-Democrats game is a total replication of what the media are doing right at this moment.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@nazokiyoubinbou Couldn't agree more about the imperative need to teach critical thinking. All the years I was in higher education, I heard persistent talk about that, and yet very little has been done for years now to address that need proactively in many of our educational systems.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@darwinwoodka Yep.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@oldguycrusty @Variant488 I'm grateful to you for letting me know the thread is worth reading.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@mos_8502 @SteveYYC That's what Rebecca Solnit is doing, you think?

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@lolonurse @Variant488 Thank you. I'm truly grateful.This week has been an uphill climb for so many of us, due to how the election has affected us, and added to it, I've been called everything but a child of God by people posting on my feed here this week — ridiculous accusations and name-calling targeting someone they don't even know, coming from people who claim to be progressives. It's deeply disheartening to see this happening now, and I appreciate the encouragement all the more.

[wdlindsy@toad.social]

@boardgamer Obviously we will have to wait and see. Meanwhile, I continue to think that the real danger looming in front of us does not come from the Democratic party — not at all — but from the other party that is now an overt engine of overt fascism.