"I believe this election turned out the way it did in no small part because a large number of Americans are now submerged in new factories of lies more insidious than anything Orwell imagined,"
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to FIAR Light last edited by
@LightFIAR Once again: no one is saying that Democrats don't have problems and that they don't need to face them. The fact that some of us will be dead within four years ought, in my view, to focus our attention on all those about to be seriously hurt by the new regime. That's where our concern and anger need to focus — not on tearing away at each other.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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FFS!! It's very apparent that most of these people really have limited knowledge & understanding of who Hitler was, & what he & his henchmen aimed to do. They probably think Mussolini was a great guy, too. -
William Lindsey :toad:replied to Rabbit (VOTED) last edited by
@ra6bit @Nonya_Bidniss Yes, I think this is a dynamic fascism always feeds on: it exploits people's rage and ignorance, focusing them on some imagined threat, and gets them to make choices that are directly counter to their self-interest. Then those very same people have to wake up eventually and discover that, in targeting and hurting others, they've hurt themselves, too.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to lolonurse last edited by
@lolonurse That could be — a lack of real information about who Hitler was. The other explanation might be that a truly abysmal effect of what Trump is doing to reshape reality for a lot of us is that Hitler is being rehabilitated for many people who ought to know better.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Board Gamerreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy It's too soon to tell but the fact that the Heritage Foundation is firing its leadership is a good sign. Trump will take the parts of Project 2025 he likes & gut the parts he doesn't. However, I don't think this will be the end of democracy Republicans thwarted his attempts to overturn the elections last time & will do it again. What liberals need to do over the next 4 years is take a hard look at their party & focus on how they can reshape their party to address the working class.
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lolonursereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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Your threads are always very much appreciated. So is the time you take to do them! -
mos_8502 :verified:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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oldguycrustyreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Yes, thank you.
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Darwin Woodkareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy the media can fuck right off
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@wdlindsy I've watched my own parents be slow walked into believing in a world where stuff that a crazy person in a tinfoil hat in a movie wouldn't even say. My mother is pretty gullible, but my father is too smart for this stuff, yet some of it has gotten him too.
I still think critical thinking should be a required skill in schools taught multiple times at multiple levels.
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FIAR Lightreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy PS--a forensic analysis of WHY dems lost so horribly needs to be part of moving forward. Where we agree--the media are utter SHIT. Including the Trumpington Post that featured a dozen stories a day about the asshole and left Harris with nothing--typical of media. Where we disagree--that the Dems themselves are not living up to their stated claims and images. E.g.,
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Colin from Edinburgh, Oklahomareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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It mainly turned out the way that it did because of the massive rampant, poverty in the US.
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midnightwildflowerreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
I do not know what the general Trump supporter population heard, but I know one person who was well aware of the Hitler comparison (they kept bringing it up). To them, Hitler was a horrible person who killed millions of people, so the comparison to Trump was absurd.
These people have been fed a steady diet of fear, anger, and hatred, all wrapped in the belief that Trump is being victimized by everyone. For those who believe what Hitler did, it probably came across as hysterical fear-mongering.
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Coach Pāṇini ®replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
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MoxieGrrlreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy YES. This is one of the reasons why I've been asking why we're giving them echo chambers so nonchalantly. They bought mainstream media to create a reality where it is no longer an unbiased source, delegitimizing journalists that work for them and forcing fake neutrality to make their bad faith arguments sound legitimate while questioning the integrity of the left. This causes people on both sides to abandon this media and the right gets funneled further down into the echo chamber.
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contrasocialreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Boomers and GenX are definitely neck deep in propaganda.
This election has been like trying to explain to your uncle how to use a computer.
"No...just click on "popular working class policy"...no, not Genocide....down at the bottom on the bar, past Corporate Handout...right, now just click...christ, LEFT click."
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to contrasocial last edited by
@contrasocial Sorry, but I mute when people start slinging around personal slurs, e.g., attacks on Boomers when 56% of men between the ages of 18 and 29 voted for Trump. Thanks for understanding my choice to mute.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to ꓤ uɐᗡ :verified_hellion: last edited by
@dannotdaniel I agree — excellent commentary.