My personal problem with a lot of decentralised tech out there (meshtastic, p2p solutions): many communities are full of peppers, anti-government, far-right people.
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to jonny (good kind) last edited by
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Huubjereplied to Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer I think the difference should be viewed as less about political affiliations, but more in terms of individualism and collectivism (obviously, I know). Is a technology designed to foster community, or tiny individual atoms? It's one of the reasons I see revolutionary potential in free software, not necessarily directly. How often have we seen fringe far right contributors give to the greater good in spite of those contributions being contradictory to their overall world view?
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to Huubje last edited by
@Huubje Agreed in most parts. So the task at hand is to keep politics out of the process s much as possible. But also to keep the community healthy and welcoming. A known dilemma with no real solution that is universally acceptable. Both being too naive and too restrictive can kill any movement. Finding and maintaining the right balance without it costing too much energy β I am still trying to:)
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange: last edited by [email protected]
I really like the Tale of Two Bridges from chapter 5 of Social architecture [1] to explain the directions of my thinking: "... and that's where everyone went." 4/4
[1] https://hintjens.gitbooks.io/social-architecture/content/chapter5.html
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange: last edited by
(Simply out of curiosity I posted this Tale of Two Bridges on LinkedIn. I want to see how the Gen Z business folks react to it
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Jeromereplied to Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer You are taking it backwards. If you have a suitable place, then the people will come and the community will form, just like the bridge story. As some people have noted in this thread, the fediverse is not far from a "suitable place".
Of course, after a little while, the place will be easier to use because tinkerers tinker and eventually it will be eternal September. This happened several times.
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to Jerome last edited by [email protected]
@dl2jml Sure. The problem I have seen play out (too) many times is that when communities form and are NOT strong enough to protect themselves, they fail and all too often with that their very good ideas and solutions.
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Jeromereplied to Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer Yes. But you cannot solve problems caused by social interactions with technology alone.
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to Jerome last edited by
@dl2jml Preaching to the choir Which is why this whole thread tried to focus on humans and not tech
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Uwe KΓΌchlerreplied to Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer Took the opportunity to connect on LinkedIn and to boost your message.
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Jan Wildeboer π·:krulorange:replied to Uwe KΓΌchler last edited by
@oraculix It's still weekend And I am not really active on LinkedIn anyway. Let's see what happen tomorrow