Thanksgiving Dinner

Ellen_musk_ox

DAMNED LOCH NESS MONSTAH

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You can, in fact, choose your family. You literally do not need them in your life.

Ellen_musk_ox

What if you showed us evidence for that actually working in any meaningful sense, in order to stop people enabling fascists?

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It’s kind of fueling some self hatred in me.

Midnight Wolf

Is that this generations version of “fake and gay”?

Midnight Wolf

Klerb deez nutz ex-dee

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Amen brother, nearly all foundational leftist theorists had gnarly beards.

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Ya got me.

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If you guys keep thinking you’ve won every debate, always have the correct opinion on everything, and don’t prove it because you think you don’t have to defend any position because all you do is demonize your opponent, that’s how you lose elections to orange reality TV stars.

Keep up the smugness. Enjoy republican rule.

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That’s some DARVO nonsense. People don’t become racists because someone told them to stop being racist - that’s literally reversing cause and effect. Not to mention getting things out of order chronologically. You’re just trying to find some way to be smug and “above it all” and claim you have the answer.

You don’t have the answer, you cannot even get basic causality right.

JackbyDev

No, but the line was recently viral.

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I’m a pretty progressive guy and I don’t think there’s much in here to disagree with. The only nit I would pick is that inertia isn’t a great argument to keep things the way they are. That is, “we’ve always done it this way” isn’t a great reason to do anything.

Your framing of conservatism is in line with the Eisenhower era when we weren’t linked into this existential crisis about the concept of governance. But for the last twenty years (at least) the American right has been against the very idea that the government should govern.

The left is trying to argue about who it should serve, taking its existence as a precondition, and the right is trying to dismantle it without regard for who it serves. As a result, we’re pretty much irrecoverably talking past each other.

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Yes, I did.

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That’s why conservatives use terms they cant define as insults: woke.

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“Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives anymore.

They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?”

― A.R. Moxon

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Back in my teens, a Seventh Day Adventist said that to me. I got the better deal in life.

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What if the only way to turn them is a repeat of 1939-1945?

MacN'Cheezus

I’m old enough to understand that every time you think “this will never happen to me” it’s DEFINITELY going to happen to you.

Ech

Good thing I don’t value the opinion of misogynists.

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It’s not so much that it’s keep things the way they are because we’ve always done it this way.

It’s more, maintain order while we figure out if the system works. If it doesn’t, change it. I don’t think it’s as much inertia as it is there are a lot of things on the agenda. Let’s change what changes would be more effective first