I bet shutting down all the AI data centers would probably make being carbon neutral a lot easier.
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I bet shutting down all the AI data centers would probably make being carbon neutral a lot easier.
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Matt Fernreplied to Paul Haddad :tapbots_logo: last edited by
@paul If I had to guess, they'll just claim that those datacenters aren't theirs — they're being operated by OpenAI and other companies, and therefore aren't *their* responsibility.
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Paul Haddad :tapbots_logo:replied to Matt Fern last edited by
@MattF_NorCal I was actually just thinking the same thing.
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Jamie McCarthyreplied to Paul Haddad :tapbots_logo: last edited by
@paul @MattF_NorCal 100% of Apple’s data centers have run on 100% renewable electricity since 2014, including all their new AI data centers. But yes you are correct, Apple devices do interact with other companies’ computers and some people think that’s bad
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@jamiemccarthy @paul *Does* Apple count AI data centers (theirs or third-party operated) in that figure, though? I’d be more confident in that figure if it specifically accounted for anticipated or actual figures from data centers used for Apple Intelligence (since AI servers consume significantly higher amounts of power than 'typical' cloud servers).
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@MattF_NorCal @jamiemccarthy @paul It’s an accounting trick. By routing renewable to data centers they can make such claims but in 2021 they said that they would not be carbon neutral overall until 2030 and they have already pushed the date out. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/03/apple-powers-ahead-in-new-renewable-energy-solutions-with-over-110-suppliers/
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@MartyFouts @MattF_NorCal @paul Counterpoint: it’s not an accounting trick
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@jamiemccarthy @MartyFouts @MattF_NorCal @paul I thought this was gonna be about AWS for a second and I was like "wait they shut down US-east-1? That's news to me" (Eastern power grid could use some work)
But also it should be companies paying to construct new renewables. It's all one big grid so shutting down the coal and gas plants would be more solid accounting