#MASTODON DEVS AND ADMINS NEED TO STOP FUCKING WITH WEB STANDARDS
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women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia:replied to yes last edited by
@blogdiva wdym by βreject linking?β
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to yes last edited by
AM STILL MAD ABOUT THIS!
i spent the whole day, WHOLE FUCKING DAY, debugging in #Backdrop with #ckeditor the #Mastodon embeddable code.
WHOLE
FUCKING
DAYand even after i got it to work, i have to submit a ticket because it looks like Mastodon is NOT following standard #oembed protocols; hence the difficulties.
this should not have taken me a whole fucking day to sort out but every single FLOSS project is pulling bullshit moves and breaking the web (AM LOOKING AT YOU #CKEDITOR)
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to yes last edited by
YOU CANNOT HAVE A PUBLIC SOCIAL MEDIA SITE AND MAKE LINKING PRIVATE!!!
it's one thing to block servers for spamming your sites. it's another to literally block ALL OF THE WEB but for a handful of approved servers; AND THEN POSTS THOSE LINK IN PUBLIC STREAMS
you are crapping on public streams with your private posts.
STOP THAT.
you don't want me to link to your instance? post that on a private, locked down site and don't make anything boostable.
keep it in your walled garden.
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia: last edited by
@dangerdyke if i link to an instance that decided to run a whitelist, the link goes to a 404.
this just happened right now with a mutual; but my frustration stems from working all day on debugging Mastodon's default embed code in Backdrop & Drupal; AGAIN, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FOLLOW OEMBED STANDARDS.
Activity Pub is not an invitation to break web standards. period.
post on closed private channels. don't put your private posts on my public stream
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women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia:replied to yes last edited by
@blogdiva so youβre referring to instances that prevent users who are not logged in from vewing posts in the web frontend?
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia: last edited by
THAT'S THE STUPIDEST FUCKING THING IF YOU ARE RUNNING A MASTODON INSTANCE.
DO NOT POST ANYTHING THAT IS BOOSTABLE IF YOU DO NOT WANT PEOPLE TO LINK TO IT OR CLICK ON IT. IF IT TAKES ME TO A 404 FUCK YOU
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women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia:replied to yes last edited by
@blogdiva i disagree. as an admin of TLA weβve been forced to lock down our frontend like that in response to people stalking a userβs profile. it is a critical safety feature.
and besides, there is no βweb standardβ stating that links in fedi posts have to resolve. the web interface of a fedi instance is not standardized anywhere I am aware of
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia: last edited by
the link is a web standard.
you do not want people linking to a post, turn your instance into a private channel.
there is no reason to post unlinkable web links. wall up your instance. don't boost to public streams.
because, again, THE LINK IS THE MOST BASIC PIECE OF WEB STANDARD TECHNOLOGY. you cannot render anything on the web without the standard of The Link.
i fucking created my first webpage in 1996. you dont get to tell me what is or is not a web standard
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women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia:replied to yes last edited by
@blogdiva and the web standard allows servers to accept or reject requests as they see fit. i donβt think its fair to say you need to stop your instance from federating entirely if you need to mitigate stalking and harrassment
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to yes last edited by
the nerve of saying URL is not a web standard.
look, there are many reasons why people don't want to have their pages indexed. walled gardens are part and parcel of the web and i would never EVER criticize anybody for running private communities.
am criticizing people who post on public streams their walled garden posts.
DO NOT DO THAT.
you don't want to be linked to but you get to pollute with your 404 links public streams?
and you think that you are entitled to do that?
FUCK YOU.
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women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia:replied to women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia: last edited by
@blogdiva literally every social media service has links you canβt access unless you log in, and links that can only be accessed while following a certain user. this is simply how web applications work. activitypub is not a special case, and itβs no more in violation of web standards then any other authenticated webapp
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia: last edited by
NOPE. you post 404 links on public streams you are a problem if not a spammer. you aren't entitled to break the web. keep it in your walled garden. don't make your posts boostable. and am done with this. am not here to fucking defend the basic tech of URLs.
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women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia:replied to yes last edited by
@blogdiva well fuck you too then
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Coldness B. Mygodreplied to women 2: the womening :flaglesbian::neoamazonia: last edited by@dangerdyke @blogdiva people's insistence on "this platform must be public b-because I said so!!" is so ridiculous
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@blogdiva Seeing all this, as a mastodon instance admin, Iβve blocked 3 of their instances Iβve found.
It seems they want to run a blog or something, but not actually share. Polluting ActivityPub with bad links and other errors makes them a bad actor in the broader community.
They also donβt understand the anti-scraping measures they employ donβt actually block scraping on ActivityPub. It just creates frustrations for other users of ActivityPub instances, admins, and the broader internet.
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to bedast last edited by
i was one of the OG self-hosted bloggers when there weren't that many women, needless to say black, latina or black latinoas online. i created my first site in 1999. my first blog on an actual blogging platform was in 2001. i've run community blogs. i podcasted and microblogged before it was cool. and that's why i was one of the first to be harassed, stalked and DDoSed with death threats. i know the violence of being a BLACK LATINA WOMAN online. so i know all the safety issues andβ¦
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yes, it's me, liza π΅π· π¦ π¦¦replied to yes last edited by
there is no fucking excuse for posting 404s on a public activity stream.
NOT.
ONE.
people can fuck off with that. you have safety issue that you have to attend for your community? LOCK THAT SHIT DOWN and do everything to protect yourselves.
you want to have public posts? then create a public channel. but you can't have it both ways posting dead links on a public stream. it's a fucking toot, it's not an article, there's nothing to paywall, just a 404.
that's as bad as spamming.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to yes last edited by [email protected]
@blogdiva there's one: alpha, unstable, software. But that means your instances should be fediblocked anyway.
And alpha, unstable software shouldn't run half of the fediverse.