There's an utterly ridiculous "study" out from Stanford about "ghost engineers" which are reportedly engineers who do nothing at companies.
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@thisismissem there's probably a pretty interesting paper to write on how to remove bias and improve accuracy in selecting a group of humans to review someone else's code and impact..
But I can almost already imagine this one didn't waste time on that kind of scientific rigor
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@hrefna @DenialShown will be interesting to see what the ethics committee says about this
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@levampyre @samir not under Probezeit. Anyway, they fired the entire team I'd been assigned to a month later
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@rune we came to the conclusion that the "10 person expert panel" likely wasn't, because the previous pre-print was based on whether LLMs could replace human code reviews.
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@thisismissem Wait, are you/was the team employd in Germany? Because a mass reduction again has additional formal requirements that apply even if individual employees are on probation still. Anyways, if you or any of your colleagues needs advice on German workers rights and regulations, hit me up. I'm a works council member of 8 years and just dealt with that same shit in my own company. So my knowledge is as fresh as my thirst for blood.
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@levampyre @samir you're about 7 years too late for that, but I'm certain that the company would've "found" evidence to support their claim despite having me change my visa to them and go permanent from freelance but a month earlier.
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@thisismissem Noooo! It's never too late to fight capitalist exploitation and abuse. Workers unite!
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@thisismissem What does "simulating a panel of 10 experts to evaluate each commit" even mean? Sounds like a concept of a plan, at best.
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@thisismissem have they considered simply asking the engineers what they do?
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@erikriffle why would you do that when you could write a garbage paper promoting LLMs? /s
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@thisismissem @esk I would absolutely love to have more time to write code at work. I do so many other things though it’s hard to find projects where I can.
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@thisismissem they are overlooking the commits you talk others out of.
Something something … chalk mark…
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Hey, so someone wrote an article about this terrible paper too: https://yieldcode.blog/post/ghost-engineers/
And @changelog issues a retraction in their latest newsletter about the veracity of the claims:
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@thisismissem paging @jasongorman
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@jackeric @thisismissem I had a DM conversation with the lead author. Executive summary: we're all stupid for not understanding it.
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@thisismissem i totally missed this thread and the fact that changelog was covering it (incredibly disappointing, but good to see the retraction at least).
i'm totally with you on everything you said in the thread. it's just a bad excuse for justifying more surveillance.
i also had some other thoughts about "ghost engineers" here: https://front-end.social/@mayank/113567790493833082
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@jasongorman @jackeric oooh, right. Haha, nope. If you put out claims in infographics and your research actually doesn't back up those claims, you've done crappy research.
Fwiw, I filed a complaint with the Stanford Ethics committee
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@mayank not even more surveillance, but actively advocating for people to be laid off due to an utterly bullshit metric driven from an utterly flawed AI model.
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@thisismissem @jackeric A complaint about what? The study?
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@jasongorman @jackeric the study and the infographics that actually have very little basis in that study
