I appreciate that, as a distinguished and ethical journalist, Margaret Sullivan refuses to relent in her ongoing critique of the colossal failure of US corporate media at this critical juncture in history.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Frank Heijkamp last edited by
@alterelefant I don't see how that's possible, when he represents a singular threat to the whole world.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Kevin Leecaster last edited by
@GreenFire @CelloMomOnCars @MeidasTouch Thank you. I agree β a good media outlet. I read articles there frequently and should probably subscribe, if that's an option.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to CelloMom On Cars last edited by
@CelloMomOnCars @lillyfinch Same here. I have a longtime friend with whom I swap emails about twice a week. Have done so for years. She's a classic liberal, Ph.D., grew up on the East Coast. She has subscribed to New York Times since 1960. And she astonishes me by saying she sees nothing unfair about how NYT has dealt with Biden. I can only assume she's a type of longtime reader who lives in a certain bubble β but what a confining, distorting bubble it seems to be.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Catherine Schmidt last edited by
@lillyfinch Yes, he is, for sure.
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66gardenersreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
Well I know these two are deep in Russian disinformation. I imagine they are behind a lot of the anonymous editorials.
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During the 2020 election cycle, Ken Vogel went on Nicolle Wallace's show and spread lies about Biden bribing Ukraine officials. There was a lot of controversy at the time, and several right wing news outlets used that segment as proof Biden was corrupt.
John Solomon is even worse than Jen Vogel. Both are Russian agents like Jim Jordan is a Russian agent.
It amazes me that people complain about NYT bias, and these two never surface as the reason.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to 66gardeners last edited by
@66gardeners Thank you for helping inform me. I knew a bit about both, but not the details you provide here.
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Cat Herder for Harris-Walz πreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
I was shocked later to learn that Ken Vogel is even working in the business.
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@wdlindsy
Another name popped into the mix: Dave Rubin also works for the NYT.Dave Rubin works for Tenet Media who has been laundering money for a Russian disinformation campaign. Tenet Media was all in on it and is involved in the DOJ indictments today.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to 66gardeners last edited by [email protected]
@66gardeners Very timely statement, in light of what came out in the charges made yesterday by DOJ.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to 66gardeners last edited by
@66gardeners Thank you for helping to educate me about these folks.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Cat Herder for Harris-Walz π last edited by
@CatHerder @66gardeners I agree.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to 66gardeners last edited by
@66gardeners Thanks β that one is totally new to me.
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Mobility Matters Bhamreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy
Thanks. I have encountered the same belief system about objectivity. It's challenging to me to figure out how to meet the persons where they are.It does takes time to pay attention to the various outlets, as well as media literacy skills to recognize manipulative bias .
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Mobility Matters Bham last edited by
@mmb With this particular friend, I finally realized there was no meeting him where he is. Our value systems are simply too different. He's a tech-bro, has made scads of money in the computer business, is absolutely committed to libertarianism, and his "objectivity" is all about delegitimizing perspectives from the lef that would critique his system of values. But I stand with that left-wing critique of this person's system of valules.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to 66gardeners last edited by
@66gardeners That's always a telling thing, when they do that, isn't it?
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Mobility Matters Bhamreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Thatβs a very astute assessment. I stand with you.