The management of MacOS is such a PITA

just some guy

Thank you for the context.

I honestly expected that to be exactly that, overly alternating (at least from a stand point of majority of users) passwords. I was just curious as the grievance felt very case specific.

That's certainly a problem I thankfully do not encounter, our Mac users use their O365 logins just like our PC users. If they forget it, they don't need my help changing or checking it. I haven't encountered the wifi at login issue, though. That probably piqued my curiosity the most. Our Macs use web auth for login by default (with option to use locally cached password instead) and it requires an internet connection to work. If the mac's couldn't/didn't connect, most wouldn't be able to login. I could absolutely see this being an issue in a new place where no internet connection has been established before the issue, like a hotel or airport.

They all have a JIC hidden local account too, though. If OPs MDM tools include this option, it could be helpful for the cited scenario(s)

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It’s a thing of the past anyway. Their software is neglected and buggy. They can’t keep it well polished up because each release needs to have more slop in it.

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why not just use jamf or something

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And lord forbid you want to run an unsigned app.

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Could this be different depending on what type/brand of pc you have?

I remember being annoyed at having to log in to shut down my laptop after accidentally opening it

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You still need an Internet connection.......

2xsaiko

Before they get locked out, I mean of course

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We went from Macs being "immune" to malware to Macs being infested with it to this. Walled gardens have their benefits, but flexibility and choice aren't among them.

There's an open source audio tool I wanted to use, but the unsigned executable got bounced. It turns out I'd been fooled into downloading a malware-infested version of it. In that single case I appreciated it.

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If it appeared to turn on just by opening it, it wasn't off in the first place. It was in sleep.

Your system integrator may have disabled it for some damn fool reason by default, probably to make it appear that the machine "boots" faster if the user is bamboozled into never truly turning it off. But if you have administrator access you can always turn the option back on.

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Them having more control over how you use your computer allows for more schemes to milk you out of your money. Just like they are doing on iOS.

EU DMA turned out to be completely useless. All these years and Apple still hasn't released control over iOS. So don't hold your breath for any legal change.

Apple is heavily incentivized to lock down the macOS platform and infringe on your privacy in the process, as long as you still use their computers.