LA Times: Palos Verdes landslide keeps getting worse. Residents’ anger boils https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-09-22/palos-verdes-landslide-spreading-residents-frustrated-angry #geology #landslide #PalosVerdesLandslide
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LA Times: Palos Verdes landslide keeps getting worse. Residents’ anger boils https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-09-22/palos-verdes-landslide-spreading-residents-frustrated-angry #geology #landslide #PalosVerdesLandslide
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"Amid the long list of challenges now accompanying daily life in their Portuguese Bend community, the predominant feelings among many residents are mounting anxiety and frustration — and even anger — over a lack of responsibility, answers or assistance from anyone in charge. " #PalosVerdesLandslide #landslide #disaster #geology
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@ai6yr pretty sure that most of the "responsible" parties are long gone. Some developer decided they wanted to build there, some official decided to allow it, and that was decades ago. After that, it was just houses on the housing market, presumed safe and habitable. It sure can't be fixed in place; a "fix" involves spending enough money to put those people in other houses somewhere else.
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@dr2chase Most certainly, no homes should have been built on that landslide in the first place, and anyone purchasing the home should have had a geology report in the sale saying: "your house is on an active landslide which has been sliding since the Pleistocene, and will continue to do so... there is always a risk it slides into the ocean, and you will bear the cost!"
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@ai6yr My opinion on this is influenced by growing up in Florida, where people pay a premium to live on barrier islands, and seem utterly uninterested in how a thing called "Hurricane Pass" got its name and whether that has any relevance to the stability of the land under their home, and neither the person selling the home/land nor the local government seem particularly interested in bringing it to their attention. (My grandfather lived nearby when it happened.)
Caveat Emptor!
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@dr2chase @ai6yr home listings and sales contracts should have an insurability clause - ie where the insurance costs and ability to get insurance should be disclosed and be a reason a buyer could back out of an agreement to buy.
Then insurance companies could (and should) be informing future buyers of what they would charge to insure homes and whether some homes are in essence uninsurable
(Here in California homes in high fire risk areas already are becoming difficult to impossible to insure
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@Rycaut @ai6yr Homeowners insurance in FL is getting tight. I am, through inheritance (rather have the parents, but so it goes) 1/3 owner of a concrete and steel structure 60 feet up with brand new 140mph windows (or metal roll-down shutters). Maximum deductibles, it doubled from the prior year, now $11,827/yr.
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@dr2chase @ai6yr that’s roughly $2k/mth for insurance (before factoring in deductibles) for comparison I have a home in CA (not in a fire risk area) where my insurance costs went down this year compared to last (turns out I had been insuring stuff that didn’t actually exist as the insurance company’s data about my structure was out of date re some external structures and interior finishes) where my annual costs are closer to your 1 month costs