I definitely didn’t have exploding pagers on my radar.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by [email protected]
Interesting. Seems that it was the Apollo AR924 pager (picture source: https://www.trtworld.com/middle-east/ap-900-this-what-we-know-about-one-of-the-pagers-that-exploded-in-lebanon-18209359 ) and the manufacturers homepage is unreachable ATM. UPDATE: https://www.gapollo.com.tw/product/ar-924/ is working for me.
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[email protected]replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer I place my beer on the AR-924, same family though. The product page disappeared a few hours ago, but it’s still in the internet archive.
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Attached: 2 images @[email protected] If this really is a picture of one of the pagers that exploded, it seems to be the model “Gold Apollo Rugged Pager AR924”: The case does not seem burned or molten, that may be an indicator for an explosive and not a battery going off. #pager #apollo #gold Link to product: https://web.archive.org/web/20240917150158/https://www.apollosystemshk.com/product/42.html (The original page has been pulled minutes ago.)
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to [email protected] last edited by
@chris https://www.gapollo.com.tw/product/ar-924/ still works (but slow for me)
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
"The Israeli military declined to comment, but American and other officials briefed on the operation said Israel was responsible for the attack and had executed it by hiding small amounts of explosive material in each pager within a new batch of pagers made in Taiwan and imported into Lebanon." (possibly paywalled) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/17/world/israel-hamas-war-news
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
"The pagers, which Hezbollah had ordered from Gold Apollo in Taiwan, had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon, according to some of the officials. Most were the company’s AP924 model, though three other Gold Apollo models were also included in the shipment." same article. Typo by NYT: AR924, not AP924.
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ViXY_DBCreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer How does @nytimes know so much about this terrorist plot, yet said nothing until the plot killed people?
Would that be an accomplice to mass murder and terrorism?
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by [email protected]
Gold Apollo claims they didn't make the pagers but licensed the production to BAC Consulting in Budapest, Hungary. And I am sure that BAC Consulting will say that they in turn used whatever electronics company to produce pagers. It'll be a complicated supply chain. (possibly paywalled) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/asia/taiwan-pagers-lebanon.html
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[email protected]replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer What if we hold them responsible anyway for not properly vetting their supply chain.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to [email protected] last edited by
@StarkRG "We" can only observe and deduct. We are not judges or prosecutors, AFAICS ...
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to ViXY_DBC last edited by
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sortiusreplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer yeh, look, I don't think any company would know it's happened. The whole point is you intercept shipments with no one's knowledge.
It's easy to do with supply chains originating in China. Not a knock on China, but the sheer volume means delays are barely noticed, so the attack surface there is huge if you're up against Mossad
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Patrick Georgireplied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
@jwildeboer I kinda doubt that BAC Consulting will say anything.
That company exists since May 2022, no other activities that I could find... Almost as if it was specially built for the purpose of building and distributing explosive pagers under a third-party's name.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to sortius last edited by
@sortius I remember the NSA/Cisco supply chain attack where it happened during shipping by intercepting the parcels. No China needed, just some good contacts at UPS or FedEx https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Patrick Georgi last edited by
@patrick Apollo claims they have worked with BAC Consulting since many years.
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
Told you so. BAC Consulting to NBC News: “I don’t make the pagers. I am just the intermediate. I think you got it wrong.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/taiwan-firm-denies-making-pagers-used-lebanon-explosions-rcna171594
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Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:replied to Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange: last edited by
Wow. So, according to 3 officials, BAC Consulting was an Israeli- run shell company. Created specifically to sell pagers with explosives to Hezbollah. (possibly paywalled) https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/18/world/middleeast/israel-exploding-pagers-hezbollah.html