The Economy and the Environment are two sides of the same coin.

[subarctictundra@lemmy.ml]

I realize I'm preaching to the choir a bit here, but I always thought about the economy as a bunch of objects and things that people are doing with them, but I just realized that actually, growth of the economy will always somehow impact the environment (not always necessarily to its detriment though). It really is a zero sum game and I was making a mistake of not always thinking about the two in concert.

[johndclay@sh.itjust.works]

I wouldn't call it zero sum. I would think of that as more determent to the environment would always be more profitable. But in reality, some industries, like fossil fuels, agriculture, and mining have an outsized impact compared to things like software development, craftsmanship like watch making, and media.

[db2@lemmy.world]

Someone just read Blue Mars.

[jubilantjaguar@lemmy.world]

The usual analysis is that the economy is a subset of the environment. In other words, the human economy is a (small, fragile, entirely dependent) part of the wider natural economy.

Unfortunately, orthodox economists have still not received the memo.

[thomascrappersghost@feddit.uk]

This might apply to my country, I don’t think it applies to all though.

[realitista@lemm.ee]

It's not just you, it's capitalism in general. The incentives without government intervention are entirely to plunder the natural resources to the maximum extent possible as quickly as possible, because without government intervention, they are all basically free, despite having massive value.

[darkdarkhouse@lemmy.sdf.org]

From Greek roots, economics is resource management pertaining to a house or district. And isn’t the environment just humanity’s house? It would surely be a good thing to broaden traditional economics to include the externalities that companies dump into the environment.