The Victorian firefighters lost a hearing to get an allowance as a response to being told they need to use multi-factor authentication on their own phones.
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/dev/rdsk/c5t1d0s2replied to Liam :fnord: last edited by
@liamvhogan damn right. If it’s a tool that’s required for me to do my job, then you’re supplying it
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@liamvhogan We recently rolled out MFA to our employees, and I was ready with a tub full of yubikeys for the people who didn’t want to use their own phones. I ended up handing out two.
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Thermite Be Giantsreplied to Liam :fnord: last edited by
@liamvhogan at a former (casual) job they moved to a new timesheet/rostering system that was very shiny and had a mobile app. They asked that people use the app to check in instead of filling out a timesheet. I refused, because bugger that for a joke - that’s an easy way to try and under-pay me. I said that I’d still like to fill in the paper timesheet myself, and they agreed.
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@liamvhogan @decryption I reckon that story leads are worth a week free?
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Deborah Pickettreplied to Deborah Pickett last edited by
@liamvhogan That said, it takes a special kind of paranoiac to balk at running a TOTP seed on your phone when you’ve inevitably already got an app for it for your many personal accounts.
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Elizabeth M, book bothererreplied to Deborah Pickett last edited by
@futzle @liamvhogan it's the principal for me, not the paranoia. Why should I use my personal phone for work things?
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Elizabeth M, book bothererreplied to Elizabeth M last edited by
@futzle @liamvhogan (I do, in the small business I work in. But in corporate, I would and did kick up a smol fuss)
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@elzbethmrgn @futzle see also a time sheet app that logs your location via GPS to see if you’re in the office, the introduction of which my office simply killed with silence
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@liamvhogan @elzbethmrgn @futzle wair what the fuck
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@liamvhogan @elzbethmrgn @futzle wait what the fuck
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@liamvhogan @elzbethmrgn @futzle hahaha omg fucking what.
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@liamvhogan @Taco_lad @elzbethmrgn @futzle Someone at the day job once proposed getting a fingerprint scanner for the front door so we didn't have to use fobs.
I, quite bluntly, said that if they did that I would not be participating.
"Then how will you get into the office?" was the response.
I sat there and waited for the penny to drop.
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@Taco_lad @elzbethmrgn @futzle but back to my first principles which is ‘pay me’
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@Taco_lad @liamvhogan @elzbethmrgn @futzle Absolutely one of the most depressing apps I was nearly involved in building was a time tracking app for lawyers. The differentiator was that it wasn't possible to *turn it off* you could only switch between tasks. In six minute increments. *Shudder*.
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@brad @Taco_lad @elzbethmrgn @futzle the first week of one job I didn’t bill my whole working days through the week (because it was my first week I had not a lot to do). I was surprised and annoyed to only be paid for time billed to clients. I never did that again
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@liamvhogan not sure "need to use...on their own phones" is right here - ruling seems to have hinged on the employer providing tokens as an alternative option?