Trying out VS Code instead of Sublime Text this morning.

mcc

Hey, which of these Rust plugins for VSC is real and which is a trap. And if they're both real then why do they both exist

mcc

So this is really minor and petty but here's my real VS Code beef. All the light mode themes look ugly. The default dark mode themes look fine (if all the same) to me, but I don't prefer dark mode. But all the light mode themes like picking either muted earthtones that are hard to differentiate from normal text, or light pastels that are hard to differentate from the background. There are 10,000 themes for download but they all look the same for me. (Comparison: The Sublime Text theme I like)

mcc

It's possible that no one except me could tell the difference between these two screenshots and I'm just really picky. But I think it's reasonable to be picky when I stare at a program 6 hours a day.

While I'm whining, two other things that confuse me about VSC:

- Why are the menus so slow to open on Linux. They don't seem this slow to react to clicks on Windows. Also, why do the menus have a *fade in animation*?

- Look close at this bizarre shape in the upper left in light mode. Menu bleed

Marco Rogers

@mcc hard agree on the light mode themes. They are bad.

mcc

Okay so I took a suggestion to use the "custom" (Electron) menus instead of the native menus and this actually substantially improved things! But I don't understand why the gnome native menus act *less* like native gnome menus than the fake javascript menus. Maybe literally every other app on my system is using gnome menus incorrectly and that's why I think gnome menus don't fade https://mas.to/@peter_mcmahan/113250104523729533

mcc

I've really gotta get off Ubuntu and probably off GNOME. My apps keep doing a thing where I open them, and they give me a popup saying they need to update. I click the popup and nothing happens. I close the app and reopen it and I get the popup again. The only way to make this go away is to close the app, count slowly to ten, and then open it again. This is silly.

I'm not asking for help here. I'm just complaining. I know the solution and it's to switch to Pop_OS! (maybe Redhat).

aeva

@mcc I can attest that I don't get per-application popups prompting me to update with my redhat based distro, which I assume is a weak positive sign that redhat will have a different set of problems than the ones you have right now

mcc

@aeva what I can say is that every Ubuntu user I've talked to seems unhappy with their choice and every Fedora user seems happy with their choice

aeva

@mcc yeah my last go at Debian was a bad time, but Fedora is working out pretty nice for me for the most part. I also just realized your screenshot is of a snap popup, and I don't use snap, so I assume if you need snap specifically for some reason then my experience with Fedora is n/a for this.

gkrnours

@aeva @mcc isn't snap just canonical reinventing flatpack?

aeva

@gkrnours @mcc fedora has an official dnf package for snap for those who want it, but fedora generally encourages using flatpack instead

mcc

@aeva @gkrnours fedora has a package for duke nukem forever?!?

Matthew Miller

@mcc @aeva @gkrnours

As I understand it, it actually stands for "let's pick three letters that are quick to type but which aren't taken by some other program"

I wanted to keep `yum`, but as I've been reminded, the FPL is not the Pope of Fedora.

Bill Nottingham

@mattdm @mcc @aeva @gkrnours then what is this budget line-item for colored smoke for?

Farce Majeure

@mattdm @mcc @aeva @gkrnours I always thought it was like on an autocross time sheet: "did not finish".

Matthew Miller

@vathpela @mcc @aeva @gkrnours

Well, it's certainly not "DaNdiFied yum"

Matthew Miller

@notting @mcc @aeva @gkrnours

Oh that? Sometimes you need to make quick escape.