#fediblock for Are0h at h-i.social for unrepentant misgendering, aka transphobia and enbyphobia
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@aud @jalcine @vantablack so I can call the Filipino who raped me racial slurs?
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Don't engage in hyperbole. I'm very sorry that happened to you, but do NOT compare Ro unknowingly using the wrong pronouns for David to rape.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@vantablack @jalcine @aud i’m comparing it to racial slurs. and it isn’t unknowingly anymore. Ro has been saying that misgendering someone isn’t wrong.
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Ro literally came back and gave it more thought. And you... fine, yeah, I did get that backwards. And no, it wouldn't be fine! A racist slur is different from a misgendering. Why? Because pronouns aren't slurs; you can't accidentally say one. You CAN accidentally use the wrong pronoun when all you know is someone's name, especially when it's typically a gendered one.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@aud @vantablack @jalcine it’s not about an accidental misgendering it’s about the stance that David’s gender is something that doesn’t need to be respected
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@aud @jalcine @vantablack @destroy Not at all what fae did. The point was: Dehumanization is wrong even against a rapist (like faer example). Dehumanization is wrong even against a racist (like Ro's example).
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Which he backed down from. But ffs, again: why are ONLY Ro's actions and statements up for argument here? Why is that the only thing anyone is bothered by and not the DDOSing, the harassment, the isolation and blocking of Black led communities?
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Please just jump into the other conversation thread I'm having with destroy if you want to add in, I can't handle having this same conversation in multiple places.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@jalcine @vantablack @aud he literally didn’t back down from it where did he ever back down?
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] oh for; the one in the thread above? And also the context?
This narrative: That Ro intentionally misgendered and will always misgender? is FALSE. Ro got David's pronouns incorrect and made a post about how he basically doesn't care about David's pronouns. This isn't about revoking gender; this is about "I'm not going to take the time to ensure I'm giving proper respect to my abuser while they're abusing me." It did not apply to all trans people, nor did it have anything to do with David's gender at all, in fact. It's about how people keep prioritizing David's gender and an unintentional use of the wrong pronouns over Ro's safety and freedom to not be harassed.
That someone has decided to raise this issue from the dead and leave out a ton of the context surrounding it just makes it that much more important. Once again, Ro is thrust into the spotlight. Once again, a false narrative of events is spread. Reconsider your analysis of the situation. -
@aud @jalcine @vantablack @destroy
Ro did not apologize for saying that the humanity of someone shouldn't be respected if they're racist. This is crucial. Respect for every person's humanity regardless of their actions cannot ever be put in question. This is plain bigotry.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@aud @jalcine @vantablack how am i supposed to interpret “i don’t give a fuck about how a racist identifies” other than deliberately deciding that respecting gender identity is a matter of good will?
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Except that's not what happened. And how is someone being racist respecting the humanity of the other person? How is that not at least just as bad? When you include that tech.lgbt has been harassing Ro for a while now but Ro has literally only ever had this to say about David, how is that not worse?
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] By what it is: "I am going to protect myself and put my safety and the harms being done to me first before I go and stalk my abuser and make sure I don't accidentally hurt their feelings".
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] I'm starting to get upset because you're not listening and I cannot spend all my rather precious energy on repeating myself, so I'm going to block you. If you ever decide to reconsider your position on this, feel free to try and reach out.
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@aud @jalcine @vantablack @destroy
"I am under no obligation to respect the humanity of someone who has caused so much harm to people who look like me."
Enough with the whataboutism. The context doesn't matter. This statement is harmful and bigoted. A direct apology addressing it is needed.
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unimplemented!("free the imagination")replied to Lulu · לולו last edited by
When a police officer decides to smack me upside the head with a baton, I'm in no position to acknowledge their humanity (as that transferability is lost). I've seen comparisons of rape to digital text use and that's how I know this is off the rails now.
What y'all demonstrated here is that Y'all are more interested in being Right️ instead of acknowledging transmisognyny (which at its root requires direct harm, like weaponizing their identity to their immediate harm).
AFAIK the root issue re: being on the blocklist isn't an issue anymore. Ro called himself in on what he did (however imperfect you found it).
@vantablack Y'all didn't begin asking for an apology, y'all began asking for a ban.
Additionally, NONE of y'all have exerted this principle of energy when Black trans or GCF folks are getting both misgendered AND having racial statements hurled at them for months.
I'm personally disappointed at the use of terminology ideally used to unify folks being used in a tone policing and near-digitially carceal fashion. There has been no request for bridging. No attempt to even pull in the victim y'all are defending into play. Instead their racial disparaging nature has been the implicit payload y'all are carrying to the end of the line.
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:banana_slug:replied to vanta "tits out at the bridge rave" black last edited by
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