#fediblock for Are0h at h-i.social for unrepentant misgendering, aka transphobia and enbyphobia
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unimplemented!("free the imagination")replied to vanta "tits out at the bridge rave" black last edited by
@vantablack it IS an admission that they misgendered them unintentionally, which is very different from willingly doing so for the sake of harm.
This is something that abolitionists talk about harm reduction and acknowledgement. It'll never be perfect and seeking it only helps to replicate the systems we're aiming to eradicate.
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vanta "tits out at the bridge rave" blackreplied to vanta "tits out at the bridge rave" black last edited by
look all i want is for him to say he's sorry
like just an honest apology. "i'm sorry. i fucked up. i will do better"
but he has yet to actually say that. instead he just keeps talking in circles and trying to justify it. but this sort of behavior can never be justified if you care about trans people. period
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[email protected]replied to unimplemented!("free the imagination") last edited by
@jalcine @vantablack that’s the exact problem. He *did* misgender intentionally to cause harm and won’t even apologize. The posts I see in the screenshots are textbook transphobia, where gender is wielded as a weapon against a trans person.
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] No, he did not. He has had David blocked for ages and had no way of knowing David's pronouns when that post was made.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@vantablack @jalcine @aud he literally said he doesn’t respect David’s identity or humanity I don’t know how much more clear it can be?
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Asta [AMP]replied to vanta "tits out at the bridge rave" black last edited by
@[email protected] Have you asked the same of David to Ro? Have you asked tech.lgbt to apologize for blocking dair-social? Because that's what started this: tech.lgbt blocked dair-social, and I spoke to David to ask them to reconsider and they started shit talking Ro for no reason in my DMs with them.
It doesn't seem to matter what evidence is given or what people say: you seem to have made up your mind. Ro does not owe you an apology, nor are you entitled to every thought in his head. Ro did not intentionally misgender anyone. Why is Ro not taking the time to go stalk David somehow a "dealbreaker" issue for you?
You can either think about this or just keep doubling down on inciting a harassment campaign like you're doing. Because that is absolutely what will be the result of this. -
Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Why should he respect his harasser? And the "misgendering" was literally not on purpose.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@aud @jalcine @vantablack so I can call the Filipino who raped me racial slurs?
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Don't engage in hyperbole. I'm very sorry that happened to you, but do NOT compare Ro unknowingly using the wrong pronouns for David to rape.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@vantablack @jalcine @aud i’m comparing it to racial slurs. and it isn’t unknowingly anymore. Ro has been saying that misgendering someone isn’t wrong.
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Ro literally came back and gave it more thought. And you... fine, yeah, I did get that backwards. And no, it wouldn't be fine! A racist slur is different from a misgendering. Why? Because pronouns aren't slurs; you can't accidentally say one. You CAN accidentally use the wrong pronoun when all you know is someone's name, especially when it's typically a gendered one.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@aud @vantablack @jalcine it’s not about an accidental misgendering it’s about the stance that David’s gender is something that doesn’t need to be respected
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@aud @jalcine @vantablack @destroy Not at all what fae did. The point was: Dehumanization is wrong even against a rapist (like faer example). Dehumanization is wrong even against a racist (like Ro's example).
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Which he backed down from. But ffs, again: why are ONLY Ro's actions and statements up for argument here? Why is that the only thing anyone is bothered by and not the DDOSing, the harassment, the isolation and blocking of Black led communities?
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Please just jump into the other conversation thread I'm having with destroy if you want to add in, I can't handle having this same conversation in multiple places.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@jalcine @vantablack @aud he literally didn’t back down from it where did he ever back down?
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Asta [AMP]replied to [email protected] last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] oh for; the one in the thread above? And also the context?
This narrative: That Ro intentionally misgendered and will always misgender? is FALSE. Ro got David's pronouns incorrect and made a post about how he basically doesn't care about David's pronouns. This isn't about revoking gender; this is about "I'm not going to take the time to ensure I'm giving proper respect to my abuser while they're abusing me." It did not apply to all trans people, nor did it have anything to do with David's gender at all, in fact. It's about how people keep prioritizing David's gender and an unintentional use of the wrong pronouns over Ro's safety and freedom to not be harassed.
That someone has decided to raise this issue from the dead and leave out a ton of the context surrounding it just makes it that much more important. Once again, Ro is thrust into the spotlight. Once again, a false narrative of events is spread. Reconsider your analysis of the situation. -
@aud @jalcine @vantablack @destroy
Ro did not apologize for saying that the humanity of someone shouldn't be respected if they're racist. This is crucial. Respect for every person's humanity regardless of their actions cannot ever be put in question. This is plain bigotry.
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[email protected]replied to Asta [AMP] last edited by
@aud @jalcine @vantablack how am i supposed to interpret “i don’t give a fuck about how a racist identifies” other than deliberately deciding that respecting gender identity is a matter of good will?
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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Except that's not what happened. And how is someone being racist respecting the humanity of the other person? How is that not at least just as bad? When you include that tech.lgbt has been harassing Ro for a while now but Ro has literally only ever had this to say about David, how is that not worse?