We're RIGHT HERE

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Yes, as there is nothing China can do to me.

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I know. I'm here and I don't even know what they're talking about, much less my friends. I suppose it's Loop? But a quick search in app store brings up nothing

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If you want more people to join the fediverse, you have to improve the user experience. People don’t want to read an article breaking down what the fediverse is, how to join an instance, how to find content, etc.

Streamline the join process so it doesn’t require learning the lore and technical training. Stop promoting the fediverse generally, and instead push people to easy to use frontends and popular instances. Remove the barriers to entry. If they want to dig deeper into different instances and the technical stuff, let them do that later. Stop loading the info dump at the front.

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" . . . giving Rednote access to their data as a show of protest . . ."

That's a special kind of stupid.

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At least not until they use their influence operations to elect a pro-China president.

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Xitter* (x pronounced sh style)

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Everyone assumed that they wouldn't be so stupid as to ban an app used by 170,000,000 Americans.

Now they've proven that yes they are that stupid. That corrupt.

So nah. Not going back to any US based alternative. Ever. TT to Red Book. If they ban Red Book we'll go to VK or Jaco or whatever Vietnam has going on.

Best part? It took all of about 2 hours to completely obliterate 60 years of CIA propaganda. We can see plain how much better they have it than we do. How much better life is there.

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...every president until 2016 was pro China, because the owners of the US government were pro China until China improved too much and started competing instead of just being a source of cheap labor.

And who cares if a pro China president is elected? Oh no we'll have cheap food, universal healthcare and no homelessness. How awful.

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What pro Chinese stances?

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instead push people to easy to use frontends and popular instances.

I've seriously thought about starting up a website to do exactly this. The problem is I already have a mile long project list. Oh and I suck at UX lmao, backend and hosting/infrastructure stuffs that's my jam. Putting together a nice UX with a good flow and then successfully promoting it....

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Yeah but why would we be more concerned about Chinese competition than say, the EU? Because China showed who they are in Hong Kong, and we want that to be as un-powerful as possible.

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Pixelfed’s app release seems like a good start.

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We are using it mainly as a massive middle finger to the US government

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Yes. Why? Because pettiness

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You get it. Well said.

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Because China has a higher gdp than the entire EU combined?

Also yes, they didn't allow a state to be independent, just like the US would send the FBI after Texas if they declared independence, what's your point?

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Honestly I didn't use tiktok that much but rednote is surprisingly different, it's less blast short form videos in users face and more a mix of Facebook with short form video focus, honestly, you should check it out, only for the reason that I think this may actually be one of the biggest unofficial cultural exchanges in history, and it's amazing to see the love going around between cultural barriers

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I agree that promoting the fediverse generally kind of doesn't make sense. People join communities, not web protocols.

I wonder if we shouldn't talk so much about "the fediverse" as we do about individual instances, because that's what people actually join. They get the rest of the fediverse for free, but their home server will always be home. Just like with reddit back in the day, how I may not have identified much with the reddit overculture, I did love some of its communities.

Like look at the difference between the slrpnk communities, and the programming.dev communities. That's something to be celebrated, like, come join this server - look at all the cool things we're doing!

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Lol, no. The US, China, and the billionaire caste, they already have all our personal data they want, because every app you run sells your personal info to thousands of data brokers who sell it to whoever wants it.

Banning TikTok is like taking off your shoes at the TSA. It's performative nonsense that inconveniences ordinary citizens and does nothing to protect anybody.

So if people want to raise a middle finger to the US government to protest its meaningless xenophobic virtue signaling, more power to them.

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That would just turn the fediverse into tiktok/facebook/whatever. The whole point is that you have to engage intentionally here, which prevents you from being served things that other people/countries/companies want you to see.

Its not hard to join here, but its not going to serve up the same experience so people leave. People also follow others, so there aren't many people on those other platforms suggesting people join them in the fediverse.

I dont understand why anyone cares if the next big social media exodus off-ramp is to the fediverse or not. A huge influx of people that dont like this style of content and how its served to them isn't going to make this better for those who do.