We're RIGHT HERE

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RedNote wasn't coughing up all the ad money and buying off influencers to screech "I'm going to RedNote, all hail glorious PoohBear!" at the time I guess lol.

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That's some good humor LMAO.

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It could be that sorta thing, but I think it was the same aim as the "salt typhoon" attack on U.S telecomms corpos.

A majority of the vulnerabilities and data dumps are, yes, worthless, but somewhere there's dumb U.S officials or people with clearances doom-scrolling TikTok , and their data or meta-data is giving valuable insight into how they can be manipulated, blackmailed, who they're connected to, whatever.

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The fediverse as a whole has missed a huge opportunity here. I never see anyone talking about it as alternatives to twitter or tiktok, only bluesky and rednote. AFAIK we have no alternative to tik-tok that is viable right now, so I don't know why anyone thought we could manage that one.

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Xi's 50 Cent Army will be kept busy.

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I mostly agree. I do miss some niche communities, though.

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It's definitely happening, but it's not why tiktok was banned. The government doesn't care who gets your data.

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Loops would be the fedi alternative for tiktok, no? I think. And I agree..but fediverse has only a little word of mouth (reading your comment I feel guilty not pushing it to my friends a little), no money for these viral campaigns/swarms of new users.

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I dunno this kinda cracks me up a little because like...if you dig deep enough, were people flame-warring on usenet or BBS (wait lemme finish! Lol) over:

"Email needs way better UX and an insta-one-click-sign-up zero-thinking on-ramp so even a single-celled organism can figure it out!"?

That's the easiest descriptor nowadays that explains the Fediverse. Email. "What if Twitter but as a generalized service that anybody could run, like email. Yahoo? Gmail? RobertLovesSurfing.net? They can all email each other but your account lives on one."

A better way of seeking out an instance could be handy perhaps. I found Mastodon pretty smooth with "Hey you might like these if...!" Sort of suggestions. The openness of the platform should make this a much easier task than it might be otherwise, I think.

I also think better explaining the portability of your account data would help people see the benefit there.

I'd like more kinds of nerds to have an easier time getting on the Fediverse with us, so let's improve that, but I also think we're less popular BECAUSE the Fediverse is more about human communication much like "The Old Internet", and less about desperate vapid fame-seeking and self-marketing and identity-as-brand, like Web2/3.0.

A lot of me thinks we're here because corpo-net "disrupted" our forums and blogs away.

IMHO, the commercial-verse can keep its skibidis and hauk-tuas and *"Oh suddenly I'm famous! thanks for the gold kind stranger!"*s

I don't think it's cruel elitist "gatekeeping" to say the Fediverse is for anybody! But maybe not for Everybody.
(Imagine if major brands discovered everybody moved to the Fediverse, for instance. Yikes.)

BTW it's 2025 and plenty of people I've observed, here in the U.S, still complain that email is "too complicated."
(And no, they weren't formerly from an uncontacted tribe or rescued from a sealed 1950's fallout shelter.)

We could make things a bit easier to understand and smoother to experience, but trying to UX-away the requirement for a modicum of intelligence required is not a great end goal, I think.

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This is exactly the kind of barrier to entry that keeps people out. You need to pick an instance to sign up, but may not even understand their differences or limitations until you sign up. It's mind blowing to see people act like this doesn't severely limit adoption.

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the fediverse needs a simple onboarding process like "signal", to overtly simplify it for casual users. Also, I only heard about loops today and it appears so far it only has a specialized iOS app that requires a special "alpha" mode to be enabled, and no android app. Not exactly ready for primetime.

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EasyPeezy for you to say! but yeah if it's not even in the appstore..Pixelfed has seen a boost at least

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Yeah this is more my take. The sign up process is already pretty smooth. Sure some of the theory or technicals might be complicated, but is a centralized platform that has secret algorithms to keep you engaged and push content, some of which may or may not be promoted invisibly you can't always tell -- is that really less complicated? /rq

Like if you type in "join lemmy" or "join mastodon" or hell even "join fediverse" in any search engine, the first result is a website briefly describing the concept and giving your some choices of servers to sign up at.

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We aren't smarter for being here, we just are loners who didnt care who would be here. I think its important for everyone to open up more to strangers especially in multinational spaces. We saw a lot of interesting conversation for the brief time people moved from tiktok to rednote, and that type of stuff dispels misinformation better than anything. You are treating it as a personal thing but it is a social tool for a community.

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What are you basing that on.

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That's kind of my point. People who voted for him seem to think he'll save them from the long string of rich, old, white people who have been doing all the harm when he's really just the same, turned up to 11.

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See response above.

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Sure. Makes sense.

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every little bit helps, hopefully the steady "drip" of user growth can take over, in the long run. As long as people stay on these platforms.