We're RIGHT HERE

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We are using it mainly as a massive middle finger to the US government

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Yes. Why? Because pettiness

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You get it. Well said.

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Because China has a higher gdp than the entire EU combined?

Also yes, they didn't allow a state to be independent, just like the US would send the FBI after Texas if they declared independence, what's your point?

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Honestly I didn't use tiktok that much but rednote is surprisingly different, it's less blast short form videos in users face and more a mix of Facebook with short form video focus, honestly, you should check it out, only for the reason that I think this may actually be one of the biggest unofficial cultural exchanges in history, and it's amazing to see the love going around between cultural barriers

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I agree that promoting the fediverse generally kind of doesn't make sense. People join communities, not web protocols.

I wonder if we shouldn't talk so much about "the fediverse" as we do about individual instances, because that's what people actually join. They get the rest of the fediverse for free, but their home server will always be home. Just like with reddit back in the day, how I may not have identified much with the reddit overculture, I did love some of its communities.

Like look at the difference between the slrpnk communities, and the programming.dev communities. That's something to be celebrated, like, come join this server - look at all the cool things we're doing!

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Lol, no. The US, China, and the billionaire caste, they already have all our personal data they want, because every app you run sells your personal info to thousands of data brokers who sell it to whoever wants it.

Banning TikTok is like taking off your shoes at the TSA. It's performative nonsense that inconveniences ordinary citizens and does nothing to protect anybody.

So if people want to raise a middle finger to the US government to protest its meaningless xenophobic virtue signaling, more power to them.

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That would just turn the fediverse into tiktok/facebook/whatever. The whole point is that you have to engage intentionally here, which prevents you from being served things that other people/countries/companies want you to see.

Its not hard to join here, but its not going to serve up the same experience so people leave. People also follow others, so there aren't many people on those other platforms suggesting people join them in the fediverse.

I dont understand why anyone cares if the next big social media exodus off-ramp is to the fediverse or not. A huge influx of people that dont like this style of content and how its served to them isn't going to make this better for those who do.

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You can't put videos on pixelfed, right? That unfortunately means it's not a competitive platform. Video is what people seem to want.

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This is ridiculous gatekeeping.

The point of the fediverse is to get decentralized platforms not in the hands of corporate or government interests.

If you want a cliquey, niche space, then stay on an instance focused for that.

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Haha, you started to cry.

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Some people's aversion of algorithms on the fediverse kind of reminds me of people's aversion of GMO food. Genetically modifying rice to contain more vitamin D is probably good; genetically modifying vegetables to contain more cyanide would probably be bad. Algorithms don't have to be built to maximize "engagement;" they can be designed to maximize other metrics, or balance multiple metrics, or be user-customizable.

IMO, Mastadon is much worse off for their refusal to implement any kind of algorithm outside their "explore" feed. When I tried using Mastodon, search was unhelpfully in chronological order, and my home feed just got overtaken by the people that post the most. In contrast, Lemmy's handling of algorithms is pretty good, imo.

As bad as search engines are now, they'd be even worse if they just gave you results in chronological order.

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I feel like I already answered that in the last paragraph.

It's litterally anything that whitewashes anything the CCP does. Maybe it's justification for island building in the South China Sea, framing international right of way passages through the same body of water as border incursions, trying to reduce support for weapon sales to Taiwain, or trying to reduce allied responses to an invasion of Taiwan. It could also just be spreading general unrest.

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concept of an algorithm knowing and learning what you like and selecting for you itself isn’t unethical.

Unless you host it yourself, you have practically given away your soul to an instance operator

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I'm sorry, say that again?

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Literally never seen any of that on TikTok. Just Americans doing their thing. In fact, you can actually look up content on TikTok that shows, describes and condemns the atrocities at tiananmen square, and their awful behavior towards Taiwan. And any number of things that shows the chinese government as a bad player. If they were in control, you'd think that sort of thing wouldn't even be available.

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You can. Your instance just needs to up the max size or turn it on.

Example from someone who only has one video as the sample content.
https://pixelfed.social/p/Sarahschannel/785335877987047968

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The fediverse allows us to do both. Some instances will go one way, others will go the other. Each can have what they want. And both can communicate if they do wish.

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Besides the fact that it’s quite difficult to do this non-invasively, giving anyone access an infinite amount of exactly what they want most is dangerous

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Its not even the algorithm I dont like, I'm sure I could manipulate it to how I want if I put the effort in, its the bite sized videos and even shorter comments, often single words or phrases. I can't move on from thing to thing that quickly. The fediverse suits the pace at which I like to consume information and allows me time to think on it, and more importantly, interact with opposing views in meaningful ways.