Hamas is not doing liberation. Hamas may be fighting Israel, but both it and the Israeli government hold the same position that there should be no peace, that war should continue until either the Jews or the Palestinians perish.that's why for years it'...
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@emi
yup. like for example, did you know that Israel had 4 credit score reductions in a bit more than half a year?
some even say collapse is part of the fascists' plan. I'd give that a maybe. but you have to understand that fighting fascists is more than just "daddy biden says no".
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@emi @Yuvalne @burnoutqueen and how many palestinians do you think are going to die during a ceasefire?
Spoiler, it won't be zero.
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@Yuvalne @emi @burnoutqueen Biden saying no would even make the entire thing worse. Because then instead of a western country going rogue, you'd have an anti imperial country doing what anti imperial countries do.
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @emi @burnoutqueen
honestly I gave up on the notion that I am able to predict the outcomes of decisions accurately. there's a chance that if the US puts all its force behind stopping the war that it works, there's a chance it doesn't. there's a chance that a full financial collapse stops this government, there's a chance it just emboldens it.as it is the case when you fight fascists, you often need to hedge your bets and hope you succeed.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @emi @burnoutqueen we, Israelis, are just standing here, powerless, watching our entire world fall apart, enemies we didn't even choose to hate trying to kill us, and having the entire world shit on us and trying to educate us about stuff we already know. And this applies to the entirety of the political spectrum.
People (like you, Emi) fail to realize that a lot of (far) rightists know; they just don't care. Because that's what extremism is. So yeah, it's funny having people look at you like you're stupid, when they're being the stupid one.
Israeli politics isn't about truth (e.g. America); It's about conclusions from mostly-agreed-upon facts.
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@Yuvalne @emi @burnoutqueen tbh I've managed to predict everything correctly from the beginning of the war. All you gotta do is know what all parties involved' goals are, and how insane each of them is.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @emi @burnoutqueen though Netanjahu killing Nasrallah is such a bitch. Can't know anything rn.
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Emi:emi_blahaj:replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
as a us citizen, i want my country to stop supporting the military actions of isreal.
so do basically all the anti-genocide protesters here in the states, many of whom are jewish. the vast majority of what i have learned is from jewish and palestinian activists.
maybe i am being optimistic, but i do belive halting military aid or even just threatening to halt it could make a difference.
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Emi:emi_blahaj: last edited by
as a us citizen, i want my country to stop supporting the military actions of isreal.
yeah, we know. I said that multiple times.
so do basically all the anti-genocide protesters here in the states, many of whom are jewish.
no, that's wrong. There are a lot of people that actually want this to end. especially, almost exclusively, Jews and Palestinians. Do not excuse the reason you're protesting by claiming everyone protests for that reason. My recommendation to you is to ask why you're making excuses.
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Talya (she/her) 🏳️⚧️✡️replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@laxla @emi @burnoutqueen
and also like, it ignores anti-genocide protests in other "third party" countries.it's such a USonian move to assume y'all are the only ones doing anything anywhere.
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@Yuvalne @emi @burnoutqueen ikr.
I mean, think about it, how does a culture manage to produce a huge "anti-genocide" movement that a major part of which doesn't advocate for stopping death, but for... making it someone else's fault? Like, what?
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Laxystem (Masto/Glitch)replied to Laxystem (Masto/Glitch) last edited by
@Yuvalne @emi @burnoutqueen I mean, my proof is, why don't people protest for the USA itself to intervene? That'd be the most logical thing to protest in support of as a third party.