Ubuntu 24.10, Kubuntu 24.10 and other Linux flavours now officially released https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/10/ubuntu-24-10-kubuntu-24-10-and-other-linux-flavours-now-officially-released/

Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮

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Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@gamingonlinux Now if they would finally ditch Snap…

Tsugu

@Natanox @gamingonlinux This will not happen anytime soon. It's been a part of Desktop Ubuntu since 2016 (or 2014 even?).

When packaged well, snaps perform like flatpak and you can ship CLI apps as snaps. It would be foolish to abandon a package manager that you've worked on for a decade and it's doing a decent job.

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@Tsugu @gamingonlinux Then they should finally make the damn backend open source as well. As long as it's not I regard snaps as shit.

Tsugu

@Natanox @gamingonlinux Canonical open sourced Launchpad and nobody hosted their own.Canonical open sourced Launchpad and nobody hosted their own.

Snaps can also be installed locally without snapcraft just like apks can be installed without googlep play.

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@Tsugu @gamingonlinux All true. Their backend for the Snap Store is still closed source though, those fact ain't changing anything about that.

Tsugu

@Natanox @gamingonlinux And how does the backend being proprietary affect you? Your bio says you use Steam and Discord so I assume you don't mind proprietary backends.

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@Tsugu @gamingonlinux Should I bring up all the reasons why something being FOSS (or, even better, FLOSS) is better, more secure and more trustworthy?

Tsugu

@Natanox @gamingonlinux Something being FOSS does not make it better or more secure (security exploits are being fixed in both Windows and Linux). In case of server side software it doesn't make it more trustworthy either. You can't check what's running on a server.

Ponder Stibbons 🇧🇷🇩🇪

@Tsugu
Objection... Knowing what server side software does is a difference. You can validate if certain attacks are plausible or not, or of certain claims made are valid. You still have to trust the hosting entity that actually use that version of the software not fakeing version IDs during handshakes etc but it shows a higher level of trust. Hence I don't see a reason what is keeping canonical from publishing it.
That being said I don't give a snap.... I use what's available.
@Natanox

Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸

@blackcoffeerider @Tsugu Good points. I didn't really want to answer to this as the discussion is rather tedious.
From a security perspective it's also better as open-source software both gets way better audited and can't get away with what companies do in a regular basis, not properly securing user data.

I don't know where the idea of something being equally trustworthy if you can *not* look into its doings (both code and hardware) comes from, especially nowadays where we get drowned by shit.