i think we need our own consortium of flagship servers
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@jenniferplusplus @seachanger it's THAT hard technically to implement limiting replies?
oof.
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@scott @seachanger if what you want is exactly mastodon plus reply limiting, then maybe a fork makes sense. But I think you'll want more, and you'll rapidly hit a limit on what you have capacity for while maintaining compatibility.
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Jenniferplusplusreplied to Jenniferplusplus last edited by
@scott @seachanger anyway, if you two do end up organizing some kind of coalition of instances, I'd like to stay in contact with it, as a fediverse developer if nothing else. I consider admins and moderators to be my most direct users.
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malena / bikes not bombsreplied to Jenniferplusplus last edited by
@jenniferplusplus @scott seems like theres a question of scale and scope. are we looking to kind of improve a little bit in the near term? Or set up a way better system for the longer term?
Eugen is slow and annoying but he also seems to be kind of thorough and is actually still following through - that’s not nothing in this world
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@jenniferplusplus @scott easy to shoot for the moon and either get nowhere or even drag the whole project backwards as you contribute yet another unfinished project or lofty kickstarter with no real plan etc
Actually seems like a solid first step would be to compile an overview of all the big failures and look kinda closely at those
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@seachanger @scott it seems like Eugen responds to competitive pressure. He's really focused on first party mobile apps right now. Supporting servers with features you want seems like the best way to shift his focus to that. And if it doesn't work, you still have more developed servers with features you want
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malena / bikes not bombsreplied to Jenniferplusplus last edited by
@jenniferplusplus @scott that’s a good point! Ha ha - so when you say “supporting servers with features you want” do you mean tweaking mastodon servers? and maybe being the tail that wags the dog that way?
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Jenniferplusplusreplied to malena / bikes not bombs last edited by
@seachanger @scott I more meant alternatives to mastodon, but I'm a little biased towards that path. I think there are technical limits to what can be done with forks, and I don't expect Eugen to respond to that. But I could be wrong
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malena / bikes not bombsreplied to Jenniferplusplus last edited by
@jenniferplusplus @scott gotcha. As a non tech person, here’s what I’d look for in a masto-alt
1. easiest and most fun for volunteers to plug in to and help with, including young people
2. designed around safety and moderation
3. buildable in the near term
4. Hmm not sure yet
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@jenniferplusplus @scott like as a non tech person I feel like I encounter a lot of siloed personal projects on here? maybe you succeed with one like the fire fish guy or whatever but then what happens when you flame out and leave everyone in the lurch? go fast alone or farther together right
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@jenniferplusplus @scott idk if computer languages can be specifically designed for group work but that would make it easier to keep the whole thing updated and moving forward idk (sorry I’m totally not a tech person)
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Paul Cantrellreplied to malena / bikes not bombs last edited by
@seachanger @jenniferplusplus @scott
Group work is one of the fundamental goals and design challenges of not just programming language but of the entire software development ecosystem. This basic fact is one of the best-kept secrets in software, to the point that a lot of developers don’t even realize it! -
Jenniferplusplusreplied to malena / bikes not bombs last edited by
@seachanger @scott those are all reasonable concerns. I'm working on it with Letterbook, and I think I'm making good progress on building a contributor community. It's not at a point where it would survive if I dropped it though. Iceshrimp is a little more mature and also seems pretty welcoming. Sharkey seems to invite contributions. I don't have a good sense of GTS or *omma projects. Everything else seems like solo projects.