"it is being handled in the characteristically clunky way we ought to have come to expect from a government dominated by the #Labour right, who told everyone they intended to visit misery on the country, and now seems surprised that a decent chunk of t...
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"it is being handled in the characteristically clunky way we ought to have come to expect from a government dominated by the #Labour right, who told everyone they intended to visit misery on the country, and now seems surprised that a decent chunk of the electorate seems to have assumed they were joking or lying" -- Andrew Tickell, aka Peat Worrier, on excellent form on the Winter Fuel Allowance here
https://www.thenational.scot/politics/24585360.labour-mps-ditched-universalism-first-opportunity/
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@simon_brooke Surely Labour-right is an oxymoron. If they continue with 'right' policies they should be renamed. Then perhaps we could have a Labour party that was actually for the majority of people in the UK.
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@Delphi The "Labour" party is certainly now to the right of where Edward Heath's #Conservative government was in my lifetime. But I think trying to wrest the name off them is, I think a waste of effort. Yes, they no longer represent working people, yes, you'd have a fair claim that the name is false advertising.
But England needs a new party of the left, and I think the best thing that could happen would be for #Momentum to leave en bloc and stand at the next election under their own banner.
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David Bainbridgereplied to Simon Brooke last edited by
@simon_brooke @Delphi I do think you're quite correct there! The depressing thing is the party keeps splitting itself apart, as in the way Shirley Williams broke away to form the Liberal Democrats in collaboration with the Liberal Party. That was very different of course as it was a right wing faction splitting from Labour. The Left are constantly hammered by the right the pervasive power of the right wing media. I would certainly support and vote for a new party based on Socialism!
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Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:replied to David Bainbridge last edited by
@davebainbridge @simon_brooke @Delphi The closest option you have is the green party.
I can't comment on the English greens, but @ScottishGreens are savvy in terms of the harms to privacy our badly thought out laws are. They want to enable socialist policies.
I switched from the SNP.
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David Bainbridgereplied to Esther Payne :bisexual_flag: last edited by
@onepict @simon_brooke @Delphi @ScottishGreens Despite our local Labour candidate seeming to be a decent guy, I couldn't bring myself, in all conscience to vote for him, knowing that to be accepted by Starmer he couldn't be a true Socialist. I've had a long standing scepticism about The Green Party but that's how I voted this time. The first time in my life that I voted anything other than Labour!
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Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:replied to David Bainbridge last edited by
@davebainbridge @simon_brooke @Delphi @ScottishGreens I recently voted for the Greens against the SNP for my seat.
I thought long about it as I knew that Labour could get in. But I can't support the SNP, not after years of not agreeing with their strategy, allowing patient data to be accessible to over 100 government agencies, their pandering to the right, their treatment of LGBTQ+ to pander to Alba voters.
It's been a long time coming. The SNP like Labour felt entitled to my vote. No more.