It's always so easy to blame women, isn't it?

Urzl

@wdlindsy We didn't miss it. We saw it and called it out, loudly and consistently for 60+ years.

For our trouble, we were marginalized, made fun of, called alarmist and abused both by the fascists and by the people who were ostensibly our allies.

Don't pretend this was a lack of awareness. America *wanted* this and stubbornly did everything to silence dissent, kill education and otherwise set the stage for fascists.

lin11c

@wdlindsy
A disgusting country that will end up destroying a lot of the world. But all countries are facing the same billionaire funded takeover. The mistake was ever allowing billionaires to exist. I guess the crumbs they got were too good.

Urzl

@wdlindsy America didn't blunder into fascism. A large portion of it actively wanted fascism since at least the Business Plot and even then we did nothing to defeat the leadership and backers because we were so beholden to the mesmerizing effect of their wealth and celebrity.

Where in the mainstream did we ever truly reckon with Henry Ford's contributions to the Nazi party generally and to Hitler personally? And to the treasonous Business Plot?

William Lindsey :toad:

@KathyLK That's the bottom line, for sure. That's who's pulling the strings.

William Lindsey :toad:

"No Dem can change the fact that millions of ungettable GOP votes are set in stone not because of economic conditions - which were the best any candidate could have hoped for - but because even relatively affluent voters have spent years marinating in complete craziness."

~ Tom Nichols

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Rory

@wdlindsy You’re absolutely right William. We deserve whatever we get… It’s just a pity that the consequences from making a bad decision, effects us all… Why couldn’t it just affect only those that were gullible, and naive enough to vote for this…

RogueDharmaBum

@wdlindsy I'm not blaming anyone because I have no idea who to blame. The ground game was enormous and the volunteers put in the work

The only thing I can think of is that we pestered our base too much in the swing states and not enough in the blue states.

Imagine if someone asked you for something 20 times in a day. Wouldn't you be tempted not to do that thing out of spite?

We were sending people out so often that materials were still on the door from the last visit.

William Lindsey :toad:

Far-right leaders are winning across the globe. Blaming ‘the economy’ or ‘the left-behinds’ won’t cut it. …

Trump warns of 'communist' takeover and amplifies the 'great replacement' conspiracy theory. His supporters rail against 'white genocide' and satanic child-molesting elites. Instead of opposing injustice, they vilify those who threaten social hierarchies like class, race and gender."

~ Richard Seymour

#Trump #fascism #cruelty #future
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Far-right leaders are winning across the globe. Blaming ‘the economy’ or ‘the left-behinds’ won’t cut it | Richard Seymour

The economy matters, but the likes of Trump succeed by offering voters revenge for problems both real and imagined, says author and Salvage founder Richard Seymour

the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

Urzl

@wdlindsy American journalism broke itself in service to fascism.

They don't get a pass anymore where we pretend they just couldn't help themselves.

William Lindsey :toad:

"Instead of confronting systems, they give you enemies you can kill. This is disaster nationalism. …

This is a global social contagion."

#Trump #fascism #cruelty #future
/26

William Lindsey :toad:

@gooba42 Yes, I agree. I doubt Charlie Sykes wants to give corporate journalism a pass.

William Lindsey :toad:

@RogueDharmaBum I'm reserving blame for the Republican party.

William Lindsey :toad:

@rlstone4dems Definitely a pity. But that's what social institutions are, aren't they — webs of affiliation, so that if you pluck one strand, all strands violate? We'll all suffer now due to the refusal of some of us to educate ourselves and face reality.

Peet Tetteroo

@wdlindsy Slightly over 32% only of the country - 30% did not vote and the rest went to Dem and Ind.

William Lindsey :toad:

@gooba42 Yes, that's right. And I'd say that at least one reason this has happened to us is that we've refused to listen to the testimony of minority communities who could offer us a realistic and at the same time hopeful perspective on our society and what ails it.

William Lindsey :toad:

@lin11c Yes, sadly.

William Lindsey :toad:

@KathyLK Yes, for sure.

Urzl

@wdlindsy I think we need to be more careful and precise in the language we use. Particularly now when the writing is probably of more use to some future archaeologist than to the traumatized and disempowered people reading it now.

William Lindsey :toad:

@NMBA Thank you for making that point. I'd also say that I think younger people tend to get such information as reaches them via online video sites, and those seem to be rife with disinformation and right-wing memes, e.g., the ilk of Andrew Tate, who is so increasingly influential among younger males.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Dianora Well-stated. I agree.