Let's discuss how to efficiently promote Lemmy to potential new joiners

queermunist she/her

They support the USs enemies.

Blaze (he/him)

The fact that they (or you) complain about the “All” timeline having the same stuff in all servers shows they have no idea what they’re talking about: that’s the entire point of an All feed! (plusminus stuff like defederation). It would make more sense to compare the Local feed of instances, IMO.

The complaint is not about the All timeline being the same everywhere. The complaint is that most of the All feed is US politics, a topic which is already massively dominant on Reddit. Some people are looking at alternatives because they want to avoid that. If it's the same, why bother changing and not stay on Reddit?

I don’t understand why is that not the default for guests / visitors.

Good point, could be something that could be change by admins.

The people who came first came for very specific reasons and have particulars to talk about.

Well, that's not the case for everyone. A lot of people came here because they wanted third party apps on Reddit.

Blaze (he/him)

Makes me think (or hope) that there’s a lot of people like me wishing there was more activity in these areas.

If you have a topic you would like to talk about, feel free to post about it in [email protected]. Not sure we have enough people for Sonic, but we can try.

[email protected]

A way of combining communities into “multilemmys” would be great.

Don't mbin already have this?

Blaze (he/him)

“generalist”

Something that is not linked to a country, a theme or a demographic

Non-generalist:

lemmy.ca, feddit.org, programming.dev, blahaj, etc.

Generalist:

lemm.ee
sopuli.xyz
discuss.online

Not sure what you meant with "not punching nazis"

[email protected]

Thanks for the information!

I'm not sure if the status pages accurately show federation issues though (not federating or well behind). I'm not sure if they can easily show that information either.

[email protected]

Sounds like we're filtering out the exact type of people I would never want to come from Reddit. Dunno why y'all want them.

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This is booooooring. So boring.

If you are part of 5%

And yet it's the point. If you just make Lemmy yet another place for the commercialized majority, all that results in is yet another cicle of people who care getting pushed out and have to create a new platform elsewhere. Wasted effort. Rinse and repeat.

You want the web to be free? Then you have to guard against the effects that make it unfree, one of which is the firehose of users who only have a mentality of "consoom" and who think "the internet" is the tiktok button on their smartphone.

[email protected]

I don’t know if @[email protected] has a bot that automatically posts news from a feed or is just a diligent poster but he is always posting relevant news to the NFL community.

For college football, @[email protected] and @[email protected] do a great job modding and make sure that community has content.

The CFB community has really active game threads and even a community poll, the NFL community is more for news but it’s very helpful for me to follow the news in the league and most posts get at least a few comments.

Blaze (he/him)

Lemm.ee definitely does:

If people want to have a better overview, they can use this dashboard: https://grafana.lem.rocks/d/bdid38k9p0t1cf/federation-health-single-instance-overview?orgId=1&var-instance=programming.dev&var-remote_instance=lemmy.zip

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The complaint is that most of the All feed is US politics, a topic which is already massively dominant on Reddit. Some people are looking at alternatives because they want to avoid that. If it’s the same, why bother changing and not stay on Reddit?

Well then the key is to not show the All feed. That feed, by its very design, is about showing the overview of what is going about "the known fedi", and we can't control what other people talk about, fedi or otherwise. If he current news is Luigi, exploded Starlink launches and double Nazi salutes, that's what's going to be talked about - and the presence of generalist instances is going to amplify that effect. Unless you have enough cats, enough Linux, or enough ich_iel.

A lot of people came here because they wanted third party apps on Reddit.

Well then they were told wrong: here it's not about developing for Reddit. In fact, when someone tried to act on trying to bring people from Reddit or emulating "third party app" by bringing in the threads from Reddit, it was the lemmings who complained (even if rightfully so).

Blaze (he/him)

That's nice. About fantasy football, did you promote in on the other NFL communities? I guess it's too much of a niche topic. I had some success with fantasy football for the Euro 2024, but that was a continent-wide competition, not a regular season.

[email protected]

I’ve promoted it and it has plenty of subscribers, it just doesn’t have a lot of regular activity. It’s not my community anyway, I’ve just been trying to steward it the last two seasons. I think it’s more just become more of a place to chat about fantasy football than an active place ask for and give advice for fantasy football. I’m fine with that as well.

[email protected]

let's just rebrand instances to superleddits and communities to subleddits

Blaze (he/him)

Everyone else is already here or is not interested in text-based forums

AWildMimicAppears

I know that you thought a lot about it, but you came to the wrong conclusions. But hey, since you seem still pretty grumpy about all of this and nearly a year has come and gone, maybe try again? This time users at least already have a working blocking feature, i think that wasn't a thing yet last time. If a free alternative comes out of it i'm all for it.

The one thing that I didn’t get to execute properly was that...

... you didn't ask anyone if they would be ok with it, neither on the fediverse nor on reddit, not thinking about possible legal trouble for all federated instances which automatically copied the "property" (ugh i hate IP laws, but it is what it is) of reddit from your instance, opening them up to possible lawsuits.

... your actions would impact the existing structures, which flooded the "all" channel - which made you demand that everyone else change their usage patterns to filter out the spam you created.

... the existing lemmy codebase was probably not performant enough for what you were planning anyway - damn, there are instances that can barely handle federating with lemmy.world; had all of this worked as you planned, i'm pretty sure that the fediverse, or at least most of lemmy would have come to a screeching halt.

This is booooooring.

To be honest, i am perfectly fine if the people who just want to flood their brain with content stay somewhere else. These people have a plethora of choices to get their dopamine flowing, and with pixelfed there is now one that grows pretty fast in the fediverse too.

It’s not an exclusive option.

But it creates a chilling effect, if the main community for a specific topic is under control of people who might not be as open or even just interested as needed. All discourse is ideological - a discussion about fascism will look very different depending on who has the last say regarding whats acceptable to say.

Mastodon's issues, in my opinion, stem from something else - the name. Mastodon is a really crappy name. I tend to keep an open mind about most things, but i bounced off that name hard. I would choose a service named Bluesky over one named Mastodon 9 times out of ten even if it's not really decentralized. Maybe now with the transfer to a new non-profit someone thinks of a snappier name that's marketable.

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That seems fine? Like I'm in support of free expression

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Sorry, I reject the premise. The cartoon does not make sense in a decentralized/distributed system.

Lemmy/Mastodon/"The Fediverse" are not isolated places, but an ecosystem that can sustain many different niches.

A Lemmy community is a place. A topic-focused instance is a place. The minority here shouldn't be worried about any tyranny from the majority because they can always have their boundaries established and they can choose how permeable they are.

[email protected]

That second link is helpful. For instance, it shows an server which I thought was ran well ( startrek.website ) being about 1 million activities behind in content from Lemmy.world

Grafana

(grafana.lem.rocks)

This means that the technology community here looks much different there. Here there are comments to our submissions. Shown there, the submissions seem to have no comments.

Technology - Lemmy.World

This is a most excellent [https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExN3N0NmhuODNib3d3Nzg0OHU2bTFqMXAzNW42Y2JsOTVmenNsNG8ycSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l46CDHTqbmnGZyxKo/giphy.gif] place for technology news and articles. — ## Our Rules — 1. Follow the lemmy.world rules. [https://mastodon.world/about] 2. Only tech related content. 3. Be excellent to each another! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rph_1DODXDU] 4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day. 5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted. 6. Politics threads may be removed. 7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments. 8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us. 9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed — ## Approved Bots — - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/L4s] - @[email protected] [https://lemmings.world/u/autotldr] - @[email protected] [https://feddit.rocks/u/PipedLinkBot] - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/wikibot]

(lemmy.world)

Technology - Star Trek Website

This is a most excellent [https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExN3N0NmhuODNib3d3Nzg0OHU2bTFqMXAzNW42Y2JsOTVmenNsNG8ycSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l46CDHTqbmnGZyxKo/giphy.gif] place for technology news and articles. — ## Our Rules — 1. Follow the lemmy.world rules. [https://mastodon.world/about] 2. Only tech related content. 3. Be excellent to each another! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rph_1DODXDU] 4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day. 5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted. 6. Politics threads may be removed. 7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments. 8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us. 9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed — ## Approved Bots — - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/L4s] - @[email protected] [https://lemmings.world/u/autotldr] - @[email protected] [https://feddit.rocks/u/PipedLinkBot] - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/wikibot]

(startrek.website)

If a person there didn't know better, they may think that Lemmy doesn't have as much activity as it actually does.

[email protected]

Prevent opinion downvoting by disabling downvotes globally.

50 upvotes, 90 downvotes, that's not problematic at all, but there is the huge total score of -40 in this case that could lead to the deletion of the post or comment.

By the way: My instance is one of the few with downvotes disabled. So, if you want to give me feedback on this, I can only see comments...

Opinion downvoting was the most toxic feature of Reddit. We should have left it there.