Let's discuss how to efficiently promote Lemmy to potential new joiners

AWildMimicAppears

I know that you thought a lot about it, but you came to the wrong conclusions. But hey, since you seem still pretty grumpy about all of this and nearly a year has come and gone, maybe try again? This time users at least already have a working blocking feature, i think that wasn't a thing yet last time. If a free alternative comes out of it i'm all for it.

The one thing that I didn’t get to execute properly was that...

... you didn't ask anyone if they would be ok with it, neither on the fediverse nor on reddit, not thinking about possible legal trouble for all federated instances which automatically copied the "property" (ugh i hate IP laws, but it is what it is) of reddit from your instance, opening them up to possible lawsuits.

... your actions would impact the existing structures, which flooded the "all" channel - which made you demand that everyone else change their usage patterns to filter out the spam you created.

... the existing lemmy codebase was probably not performant enough for what you were planning anyway - damn, there are instances that can barely handle federating with lemmy.world; had all of this worked as you planned, i'm pretty sure that the fediverse, or at least most of lemmy would have come to a screeching halt.

This is booooooring.

To be honest, i am perfectly fine if the people who just want to flood their brain with content stay somewhere else. These people have a plethora of choices to get their dopamine flowing, and with pixelfed there is now one that grows pretty fast in the fediverse too.

It’s not an exclusive option.

But it creates a chilling effect, if the main community for a specific topic is under control of people who might not be as open or even just interested as needed. All discourse is ideological - a discussion about fascism will look very different depending on who has the last say regarding whats acceptable to say.

Mastodon's issues, in my opinion, stem from something else - the name. Mastodon is a really crappy name. I tend to keep an open mind about most things, but i bounced off that name hard. I would choose a service named Bluesky over one named Mastodon 9 times out of ten even if it's not really decentralized. Maybe now with the transfer to a new non-profit someone thinks of a snappier name that's marketable.

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That seems fine? Like I'm in support of free expression

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Sorry, I reject the premise. The cartoon does not make sense in a decentralized/distributed system.

Lemmy/Mastodon/"The Fediverse" are not isolated places, but an ecosystem that can sustain many different niches.

A Lemmy community is a place. A topic-focused instance is a place. The minority here shouldn't be worried about any tyranny from the majority because they can always have their boundaries established and they can choose how permeable they are.

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That second link is helpful. For instance, it shows an server which I thought was ran well ( startrek.website ) being about 1 million activities behind in content from Lemmy.world

Grafana

(grafana.lem.rocks)

This means that the technology community here looks much different there. Here there are comments to our submissions. Shown there, the submissions seem to have no comments.

Technology - Lemmy.World

This is a most excellent [https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExN3N0NmhuODNib3d3Nzg0OHU2bTFqMXAzNW42Y2JsOTVmenNsNG8ycSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l46CDHTqbmnGZyxKo/giphy.gif] place for technology news and articles. — ## Our Rules — 1. Follow the lemmy.world rules. [https://mastodon.world/about] 2. Only tech related content. 3. Be excellent to each another! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rph_1DODXDU] 4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day. 5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted. 6. Politics threads may be removed. 7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments. 8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us. 9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed — ## Approved Bots — - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/L4s] - @[email protected] [https://lemmings.world/u/autotldr] - @[email protected] [https://feddit.rocks/u/PipedLinkBot] - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/wikibot]

(lemmy.world)

Technology - Star Trek Website

This is a most excellent [https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExN3N0NmhuODNib3d3Nzg0OHU2bTFqMXAzNW42Y2JsOTVmenNsNG8ycSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/l46CDHTqbmnGZyxKo/giphy.gif] place for technology news and articles. — ## Our Rules — 1. Follow the lemmy.world rules. [https://mastodon.world/about] 2. Only tech related content. 3. Be excellent to each another! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rph_1DODXDU] 4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day. 5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted. 6. Politics threads may be removed. 7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments. 8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us. 9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed — ## Approved Bots — - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/L4s] - @[email protected] [https://lemmings.world/u/autotldr] - @[email protected] [https://feddit.rocks/u/PipedLinkBot] - @[email protected] [https://lemmy.world/u/wikibot]

(startrek.website)

If a person there didn't know better, they may think that Lemmy doesn't have as much activity as it actually does.

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Prevent opinion downvoting by disabling downvotes globally.

50 upvotes, 90 downvotes, that's not problematic at all, but there is the huge total score of -40 in this case that could lead to the deletion of the post or comment.

By the way: My instance is one of the few with downvotes disabled. So, if you want to give me feedback on this, I can only see comments...

Opinion downvoting was the most toxic feature of Reddit. We should have left it there.

Blaze (he/him)

Blahaj does it as well

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I've noticed that people forgot how long ago the Reddit blackout was, and Lemmy has improved a lot since then. Back then Lemmy was like pre-alpha.

Blocked

(old.reddit.com)

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menuheartsearch

Lemmy

(discuss.online)

This link doesn't work. There's only 3 communities for patientgamers: world, shitjustworks, and ml

Lemmy Explorer

Instance and Community Explorer for Lemmy

(lemmyverse.net)

Blaze (he/him)

I still remember when federation was barely working. We've made good progress since then

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Why not promote piefed?

Blaze (he/him)

It's SJW, I'll edit.

Blaze (he/him)

Also, why not mentioning one instance when making that comment?

freamon

@[email protected] OP answered here: https://feddit.org/comment/4286281 (the lack of mobile apps, was the answer)

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i hate IP laws, but it is what it is

It is what it is because we are too afraid to challenge them.

which made you demand that everyone else change their usage patterns to filter out the spam you created.

I really don't get this argument. Browsing by "all" is akin to drinking from the firehose, people are not using the affordances that the software provided from the very beginning and then the problem is with those who are bringing content to the network?

Next you are going to tell me that the reason we should keep Lemmy small is to not break people's workflows.

the existing lemmy codebase was probably not performant enough for what you were planning anyway

Au contraire!. One of the reasons that I was creating so many different instances was precisely to avoid concentration of communities in a single instance. In Lemmy's currrent design, the communities are the chatty agents. Every comment and post becomes a message broadcast by the community. The reason that LW has become problematic in the overall network is less about the amount the user it has and more because of its communities.

But it creates a chilling effect

I just disagree, here. In fact, it feels like the opposite is the problem here. I feel like the Fediverse is so concerned about being a place for minorities and outcasts that it only accepts fringe opinions.

Mastodon is a really crappy name.

May as well be, but completely irrelevant. There are a dozen other projects providing microblogging and a Twitter-like experience. All of them failing to appeal to a more "normie" crowd.

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Yep, lemmy definitely has a problem with too much politics.

I propose that no post should include the head or face of any politician. Seeing a politician typically ruins your day. Best to either keep politics abstract (memes) or not do that at all.

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Thanks for the link.

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Rule. Clickbait or meaningful?

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Good reasoning all 'round! Although Lemmy.ca doesn't require you to be Canadian, so would be a decent recommendation for any NA user. As long as they don't mind some more Canada posting in the Local feed.

Meldrik

An official Android and iOS app called "Lemmy". If you wanna go big, you need the mobile platform.

Blaze (he/him)

Discover Fediverse apps with LemmyApps

Find the best Lemmy Apps to explore the Fediverse. Easily sort, filter, and submit apps with Lemmy Apps.

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