Let's discuss how to efficiently promote Lemmy to potential new joiners

confuser

Shoutout to lemmy.zip, y'all are a great instance!

Blaze (he/him)

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Propaganda focused instances, with deranged users that attack anyone who tries to fact check and they are protectes by their admins/mods.

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To be fair, you can’t say they’re wrong. Open https://discuss.online , by default you’ll be set on All - Active. Out of the first 9 posts you see, 8 are about T or M, the last one being a meme.

The fact that they (or you) complain about the "All" timeline having the same stuff in all servers shows they have no idea what they're talking about: that's the entire point of an All feed! (plusminus stuff like defederation). It would make more sense to compare the Local feed of instances, IMO.

Besides, the default sorts are active and popularity nowadays, so it only makes sense that stuff that we care about and have to have words with, takes the forefront. If you want to solve that the solution is not "let's ignore what's going on around the world", it's "post more cats" and "post more ich_iel". Or just use the Scaled sort, I don't understand why is that not the default for guests / visitors.

And that's right there with the complaint about the 42k users too. The people who came first came for very specific reasons and have particulars to talk about. Complaining that for the next people to come in "I'm going to be called a westerner imperialist" is delicious hypocrisy on not noticing how indoctrinated they are.

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Agree. I'm of the opinion that the default view for guests should be Local, Scaled. Or alternatively, Local, Popular. But never All, and certainly not mixed with Active.

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There is no ideal generalist instance. If you open the top 20 instances

[proceeds to list pretty much all good instances, and complains about hexbear]

...I'm curious, what is your definition of "generalist"? Because I suspect it involves "not punching nazis".

queermunist she/her

They support the USs enemies.

Blaze (he/him)

The fact that they (or you) complain about the “All” timeline having the same stuff in all servers shows they have no idea what they’re talking about: that’s the entire point of an All feed! (plusminus stuff like defederation). It would make more sense to compare the Local feed of instances, IMO.

The complaint is not about the All timeline being the same everywhere. The complaint is that most of the All feed is US politics, a topic which is already massively dominant on Reddit. Some people are looking at alternatives because they want to avoid that. If it's the same, why bother changing and not stay on Reddit?

I don’t understand why is that not the default for guests / visitors.

Good point, could be something that could be change by admins.

The people who came first came for very specific reasons and have particulars to talk about.

Well, that's not the case for everyone. A lot of people came here because they wanted third party apps on Reddit.

Blaze (he/him)

Makes me think (or hope) that there’s a lot of people like me wishing there was more activity in these areas.

If you have a topic you would like to talk about, feel free to post about it in [email protected]. Not sure we have enough people for Sonic, but we can try.

[email protected]

A way of combining communities into “multilemmys” would be great.

Don't mbin already have this?

Blaze (he/him)

“generalist”

Something that is not linked to a country, a theme or a demographic

Non-generalist:

lemmy.ca, feddit.org, programming.dev, blahaj, etc.

Generalist:

lemm.ee
sopuli.xyz
discuss.online

Not sure what you meant with "not punching nazis"

[email protected]

Thanks for the information!

I'm not sure if the status pages accurately show federation issues though (not federating or well behind). I'm not sure if they can easily show that information either.

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Sounds like we're filtering out the exact type of people I would never want to come from Reddit. Dunno why y'all want them.

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This is booooooring. So boring.

If you are part of 5%

And yet it's the point. If you just make Lemmy yet another place for the commercialized majority, all that results in is yet another cicle of people who care getting pushed out and have to create a new platform elsewhere. Wasted effort. Rinse and repeat.

You want the web to be free? Then you have to guard against the effects that make it unfree, one of which is the firehose of users who only have a mentality of "consoom" and who think "the internet" is the tiktok button on their smartphone.

[email protected]

I don’t know if @[email protected] has a bot that automatically posts news from a feed or is just a diligent poster but he is always posting relevant news to the NFL community.

For college football, @[email protected] and @[email protected] do a great job modding and make sure that community has content.

The CFB community has really active game threads and even a community poll, the NFL community is more for news but it’s very helpful for me to follow the news in the league and most posts get at least a few comments.

Blaze (he/him)

Lemm.ee definitely does:

If people want to have a better overview, they can use this dashboard: https://grafana.lem.rocks/d/bdid38k9p0t1cf/federation-health-single-instance-overview?orgId=1&var-instance=programming.dev&var-remote_instance=lemmy.zip

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The complaint is that most of the All feed is US politics, a topic which is already massively dominant on Reddit. Some people are looking at alternatives because they want to avoid that. If it’s the same, why bother changing and not stay on Reddit?

Well then the key is to not show the All feed. That feed, by its very design, is about showing the overview of what is going about "the known fedi", and we can't control what other people talk about, fedi or otherwise. If he current news is Luigi, exploded Starlink launches and double Nazi salutes, that's what's going to be talked about - and the presence of generalist instances is going to amplify that effect. Unless you have enough cats, enough Linux, or enough ich_iel.

A lot of people came here because they wanted third party apps on Reddit.

Well then they were told wrong: here it's not about developing for Reddit. In fact, when someone tried to act on trying to bring people from Reddit or emulating "third party app" by bringing in the threads from Reddit, it was the lemmings who complained (even if rightfully so).

Blaze (he/him)

That's nice. About fantasy football, did you promote in on the other NFL communities? I guess it's too much of a niche topic. I had some success with fantasy football for the Euro 2024, but that was a continent-wide competition, not a regular season.

[email protected]

I’ve promoted it and it has plenty of subscribers, it just doesn’t have a lot of regular activity. It’s not my community anyway, I’ve just been trying to steward it the last two seasons. I think it’s more just become more of a place to chat about fantasy football than an active place ask for and give advice for fantasy football. I’m fine with that as well.

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let's just rebrand instances to superleddits and communities to subleddits