Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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The other difference is that promoting more and more obscure, useless shit ruins your credibility for when you're trying to get them to Lemmy or Signal or Mastodon.
Signal is an absolutely fine product and doesn't need to be decentralized right now.
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I get that you're using AI directly related to your point, but it's still a lot of shitty AI spam.
Use it for your own research, but don't foist that on us.
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so I found it interesting and checked it out. the protocol is all well and good but the problem is social. I'm simply not going to send people my delta chat Id and ask them to message me there instead if they have delta chat installed. I had the same problem with session messenger.
when I meet someone irl I'm trading phone numbers. not asking if they have app X installed.
this might be useful for open source projects where you can use ur delta chat id instead of ur email. but it's not something I would use unless it's a requirement to join some community I wanted to.
the problem signal solves by tieing accounts to your phone number is contact discovery. thanks to user IDs you no longer have to share your phone number with people u want to chat with, and can only share your user id
plus signal guarantees the metadata is encrypted. is the same true for delta chat?
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Yes, I really have t looked into this before. I just vaguely remembered jokes about PGP from a security class a while back, so looked it up. It does look like the encryption scheme used in XMPP does solve this issue.
Wikipedia saves the day again:
OMEMO is an extension to the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP) for multi-client end-to-end encryption developed by Andreas Straub. According to Straub, OMEMO uses the Double Ratchet Algorithm "to provide multi-end to multi-end encryption, allowing messages to be synchronized securely across multiple clients, even if some of them are offline".[1] The name "OMEMO" is a recursive acronym for "OMEMO Multi-End Message and Object Encryption". It is an open standard based on the Double Ratchet Algorithm and the Personal Eventing Protocol (PEP, XEP-0163).[2] OMEMO offers future and forward secrecy and deniability with message synchronization and offline delivery.
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It's considered a good idea because it runs over omnipresent, already-existent, distributed infrastructure. In other words, for this particular chat app, you don't even need to create an account. That is at very least an interesting and noteworthy feature.
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Join obv.
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Basically it's an Open source Whatsapp, but you use Email, instead of a phone number
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Because Signal is not decentralized nor anonymous
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I've tried a ton, and DeltaChat came close, but there is no edit option for messages, since under the hood, it uses email. The apps on both iPhone and Android also had issues with notifications. I convinced a few family members and friends to use it and then had to convince them again to move to Signal. Lost a few of them in the process.
The point of my story is to say... If you think you'll have a hard time convincing people to get off WhatsApp/Texting, just go to Signal. It is much more mainstream and at least it isn't Facebook.
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I've worked with both in my career. Tell me more...
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Because Signal is not decentralized nor anonymous
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Wait that’s really funny
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@[email protected]
Well, my only concern is that on the one hand the company is very meticulous about the internal network, but on the other hand messengers such as WhatsApp, etc. are used for internal communication. That doesn't go together. TikTok is just a new addition.
It's clear that Peertube etc. don't have the reach. -
@[email protected]
Well, my only concern is that on the one hand the company is very meticulous about the internal network, but on the other hand messengers such as WhatsApp, etc. are used for internal communication. That doesn't go together. TikTok is just a new addition.
It's clear that Peertube etc. don't have the reach.I'd target WhatsApp first.
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So if you don't need to create an account, how do you know you're talking to who you think you're talking to?
You use your email provider's credentials to log into the app, which then creates an IMAP folder called delta-chat which houses all those conversations.
You'd verify it's your mom by starting a chat with "[email protected]" she'd verify it's you by making sure it's coming from "[email protected]"
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It's a good one (Signal as well, though). My favorite design decision was to tie it into the email ecosystem, so if anyone tries to block it, they will have to block email, which their business buddies won't be happy about.
Some more here:
Delta Chat: e-mail based messaging, the Rustocalypse and UX driven approach [YBTI/wefixthenet session]
Delta Chat is an e-mail instant messenger that is just becoming available on all platforms. Unlike other offerings, Delta Chat is no pla...
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with these its more about whos using it
