Happy #GlobalSwitchDay
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You cannot make a Signal account without phone number so that’s not true.
you need a phone number to make an account. but you can chat with others without divulging your phone number
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Oh, cool. TBH I don't think that's a drawback, just customised to the very specific usage. So you get a [email protected] email or something?
You can choose any chatmail server just like when you sign up for lemmy you can choose which instance you’re gonna have your account on. And you can also run your own instance and allow people to sign up on there.
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You need a phone number to sign up which requires identification in most countries.
Also anyone who know your username can ping where you are at any time: https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117#real-world-application-discord
Interesting, thanks. I think SimpleX fixes a lot of signal's issues, but the only problem i have that it is funded by VC and quite new.
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Interesting, thanks. I think SimpleX fixes a lot of signal's issues, but the only problem i have that it is funded by VC and quite new.
Ah so they are just capturing users currently and will have to make return on investment later? That’s a no from me.
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there's also session
Session | Send Messages, Not Metadata. | Private Messenger
Session is a private messenger that aims to remove any chance of metadata collection by routing all messages through an onion routing network.
Session (getsession.org)
unfortunately privacy and usability are inversely related. session is private. I loved it. but I had no one to chat with
I had no idea if any of my contacts were on session or not.
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Ah so they are just capturing users currently and will have to make return on investment later? That’s a no from me.
Yeah it's a shame, though i'm going to wait before switching to it to see if it gets itself into any hot water.
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Imo it's already difficult enough to convince friends and family to use Signal. Delta Chat would be even more difficult to pull off.
How is it different
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You need a phone number to sign up which requires identification in most countries.
Also anyone who know your username can ping where you are at any time: https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117#real-world-application-discord
You are confusing privacy with anonymity. You aren't anonymous because your user is linked to a phone number, but your communications are private due to how their encryption works.
On the location attack: it is a matter of configuration and your location will be as ambiguous as thousands of miles.
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Yea but not in vc debt so without the incentive to sell out users
What VC money has Matrix taken? Genuinely curious
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As I've understood, Delta chat is based on the IMAP protocol and uses the infrastructure of your email provider. Thus, it uses no own server infrastructure, but has the also the downsides of the protocol and some issues with many email providers.
Wikipedia.de - Delta Chat (no English version available yet)
some issues with many email providers
This turned out to be the deal-breaker for me. GMX kept locking me out of my account because of the DeltaChat messages. They're (of course) full of cyphertext and to email providers this must look a look like spam.
The open-to-abuse nature of email claims yet another victim.
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What VC money has Matrix taken? Genuinely curious
30 million dollars https://element.io/blog/element-raises-30m-as-matrix-explodes/
You can argue that element is not matrix but you’re fooling yourself. Others even have to look at how element implements stuff instead of following the matrix spec
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Interesting, thanks. I think SimpleX fixes a lot of signal's issues, but the only problem i have that it is funded by VC and quite new.
They are open source and decentralized and indeed there are already a few forks.
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Yup that's why it seems great
though i haven't heard of forks. I think i'll wait a little more till i switch to it, just to see if it gets itself in hot water. It's too early to tell -
Because delta chat is using an open protocol (email) and you can run your own servers meaning it is decentralized unlike Signal. Also it is actually anonymous unlike Signal, so you don’t need to give anyone your phone number and people can’t find where you live just by knowing your username.
If you use your email, it's anonymous but you have to use your email which is almost never anonymous and has your phone number. Also you have to "Create an app-specific password" that delta chat will use and gain full access to your email account, which is way worse than signal or any other application. That's a really stupid idea.
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@[email protected] currently I try to get my Employer to the fediverse. He would use TikTok to promote the profession with the help of trainees
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You are confusing privacy with anonymity. You aren't anonymous because your user is linked to a phone number, but your communications are private due to how their encryption works.
On the location attack: it is a matter of configuration and your location will be as ambiguous as thousands of miles.
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30 million dollars https://element.io/blog/element-raises-30m-as-matrix-explodes/
You can argue that element is not matrix but you’re fooling yourself. Others even have to look at how element implements stuff instead of following the matrix spec
Good to know, thank you for the link
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Downvote for what? What part is wrong?
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Regarding SMTP:
SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) is a foundational technology for email, but it has some limitations. Here are some ways it could be improved:
- Security: SMTP was designed in a time of less pervasive security threats. It lacks built-in encryption and authentication mechanisms, making it vulnerable to eavesdropping, spoofing, and spam. While extensions like TLS/SSL and authentication methods exist, they are not universally implemented or enforced.
- Efficiency: SMTP is a "chatty" protocol, meaning it involves multiple back-and-forth exchanges between the client and server. This can lead to latency and increased resource consumption, especially for large emails or bulk sending.
- Deliverability: SMTP doesn't have mechanisms to guarantee email delivery. Emails can get lost, delayed, or filtered as spam. While techniques like SPF, DKIM, and DMARC help, they are not foolproof.
- Features: SMTP is primarily designed for sending emails. It lacks features for managing email content, tracking delivery status, or handling complex email workflows.
Possible Improvements: - Mandatory Encryption: Enforcing TLS/SSL encryption for all SMTP connections would protect email content from interception.
- Stronger Authentication: Implementing more robust authentication mechanisms would prevent spoofing and ensure that emails originate from legitimate senders.
- Enhanced Deliverability: Developing mechanisms to track email delivery, provide feedback on delivery failures, and reduce spam filtering would improve deliverability.
- More Efficient Communication: Exploring alternative protocols or extensions that reduce the "chattiness" of SMTP could improve efficiency.
- Integration with other technologies: Integrating SMTP with other technologies like REST APIs or message queues could enable more complex email workflows and features.
It's important to note that some of these improvements are already being addressed through extensions and best practices. However, there is still room for improvement in making SMTP a more secure, efficient, and reliable technology.
That said, it looks like Delta Chat doesn't actually use SMTP, having scanned through the website. Though I'm honestly unsure either way as it was only a scan.
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Oh that's good.
I've often wondered how could I make my instant messaging less instantaneous, while giving a new app access to my banking emails.
If you struggle making more than one email address try starting somewhere basic.
