buh-bye
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Stéphanie Pageau last edited by
@stephanie @gemelliz I think the media have a big role to play in that. They're constantly looking for some controversy. Singh is trying to find a middle ground. So the headline makes it sound like Singh is hiding something when he's not.
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@adammiller @TheSaanichDaily @gemelliz @chris Chris, Adam said what I've been trying to say ️
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Stéphanie Pageau last edited by
@stephanie @adammiller @TheSaanichDaily @gemelliz ya hard to argue with that! Poor communications management.
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@stephanie @adammiller @TheSaanichDaily @gemelliz @chris
Like if the NDPs stance is that the Liberals aren't doing enough about climate change, they need to be clear with that messaging. But so far they're just echoing CPC talking points about the carbon tax without offering better solutions. -
A Wolf in Cheap Clothingreplied to Shaun last edited by
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That's all #JackassSignh knows how to do, parrot #PeePee's bullshit and #Twerk!
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to A Wolf in Cheap Clothing last edited by
@AWolfInCheapClothing @ShaunOttawa @stephanie @adammiller @TheSaanichDaily @gemelliz congratulations, you're blocked.
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Sir_Osis_of_Liverreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
"We want to see an approach to fighting the climate crisis where it doesn't put the burden on the backs of working people, where big polluters have to pay their fair share," he said."
That's impossible. Carbon tax, carbon trading, direct carbon taxation etc will all ultimately be born by working people.
Added regulations, add costs that the government will bear, which will have to come out of general revenue and taxation.
The carbon tax is the most economically efficient (lowest admin costs) method.
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ಚಿರಾಗ್ 🌹✊🏾Ⓥ🌱🇵🇸 (he/him)replied to Sir_Osis_of_Liver last edited by
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @chris @gemelliz That doesn't *have* to be the case (e.g. could restrict how much companies are allowed to charge, nationalize companies and make price structure public so arbitrary increases can't just "happen" without some kind of oversight, etc).
If you pit climate action against working people and say that working people will be sacrificed at the altar of climate action, you give the do-nothings tons of ammo and they will use it to block everything.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to ಚಿರಾಗ್ 🌹✊🏾Ⓥ🌱🇵🇸 (he/him) last edited by
@chiraag @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @gemelliz the question Singh is faced with is how to turn PPs rhetoric about the carbon tax around. The words "Carbon Tax" are a trigger now. What has to happen is a policy created that effectively does the same thing, but ideally it makes it very obvious to the voter/consumer that it is not costing them a large amount, it is mainly just making it less likely for companies to use high fossil fuel methods/products
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@chris @chiraag @Sir_Osis_of_Liver
"how to turn #Poilievre's rhetoric about the carbon tax around"
good luck with that 🥴
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to GG last edited by [email protected]
@gemelliz @chiraag @Sir_Osis_of_Liver indeed. So perhaps a little sympathy for what Singh is trying to do. Anyone who seriously tries to say the NDP and Conservatives are “indistinguishable" is either a fool or a liar.
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Nick Pilonreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris @Sir_Osis_of_Liver you cannot win a fight by running away from it. Public medicine was a trigger until politicians of the 60s and 70s won the fight for it. We can win the fight on the carbon price, we just have to have the fight.
Pretending we can trick Canadians into taking their medicine by changing up the name and colour isn’t going to work.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Nick Pilon last edited by
@npilon @Sir_Osis_of_Liver I don't disagree at all. I'm just aware that in the moment when you're fighting a war of rhetoric with a bad faith actor like PP, you will need to be very very creative.
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@chris @chiraag @Sir_Osis_of_Liver Oh, I wish him much luck - but he has a very short time to turn it around.
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@gemelliz @chiraag @Sir_Osis_of_Liver a week is a long time in politics... up to a year is an eternity.
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Nick Pilonreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
@chris @Sir_Osis_of_Liver I would say the opposite! The best way to fight a shifting, slimy liar like Poilievre is to be concrete, straightforward, and specific. “We’ll replace the carbon price with another plan, to be named later” is none of the above.
The Liberals ALSO aren’t comfortable with this style of communication, but airy assertions of the principles behind stuff you’re already doing isn’t this counterproductive.
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Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸replied to Nick Pilon last edited by
@npilon @Sir_Osis_of_Liver creativity and concrete/straightforward hopefully don't need to be two different things.
There is also another strategy which I am not sure why the NDP isn't following... which is to ignore and pivot.
They *should* be spending every second in front of the camera taking credit for every single good policy the Liberals created in the past two years. Call PP what he is, a liar and divider, and move on to what Canadians actually care about.
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Sir_Osis_of_Liverreplied to Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸 last edited by
I think that would be more productive.
New policy announcements on housing, corporate taxation, new top marginal tax on earners making more than $3M/year or some such.
Maybe new regulations for rail workers, while that's a hot topic.The carbon tax is done. Let it work, and find a more productive line of attack.