@sam @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer I got a report from Ryan that social.coop seems to have blocked Bridgy Fed and snarfed.org, looking into it, I don't think we decided to do this?
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In #Flancia we'll meetreplied to Sam Whited last edited by [email protected]
@sam @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer I understand but I don't think it's fine to limit these domains indefinitely for the whole of social.coop because some people don't like cross-posting; not being able to interact with users from the bridge or my developer acquaintance is surprising behavior for me as a social.coop user at least.
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Sam Whitedreplied to In #Flancia we'll meet last edited by
@flancian @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer I disagree; if that's indeed what's happening and he is (or was) sucking up everybodies stuff without consent then the *only* way to protect our users is to limit and let them decide if they want to follow or not. They can always explicitly visit the profile and hit the "show me" button or whatever if they want to opt-in to it.
That being said, if it's opt-in now I don't see any reason not to unlimit.
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@flancian @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer I can't even find the limit or report now (*sigh* mastodon search tools). Was it me that did the limit? I have a vague memory of the name so I'm assuming it was, but I can't find it. If so, my apologies because I'm assuming this was something for the next meeting that I then forgot about.
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In #Flancia we'll meetreplied to Sam Whited last edited by [email protected]
@sam @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer you did fine I think btw, and you did bring it up in the CWG meeting I'm pretty sure. Opening the Loomio thread made sense, it's just that I think the thread showed there's a split in the community. Full disclosure: I acknowledge I'm more pro-bridges than most in the instance probably, but I do think it's important not to block bridges from people who are trying to do cross posting right.
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Sam Whitedreplied to In #Flancia we'll meet last edited by [email protected]
@flancian @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer oh! Sorry, that loomio link went to some random post about bluesky (also *sigh* at how much I continue to hate loomio), but the second time it went to the correct place and I see that this is in fact the correct discussion. Refreshing my memory now.
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@flancian @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer ahhh yes, okay, I remember this now. Sorry, it's probably on me for not following up with a proper proposal.
So my thought is that we should see what has changed (if anything), and then update the community and hold a vote on whether to open it back up, limit, or suspend. In the mean time we should keep the limit IMO since that's what the community has voted to do for other bridges, so it seems like a sensible default.
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Sam Whitedreplied to In #Flancia we'll meet last edited by
@flancian @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer I think this is the threads vote:
https://www.loomio.com/d/AZcJK6y2/discussion-support-the-anti-meta-fedi-pact/344
There was also one for bluesky that I'm still looking for.
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In #Flancia we'll meetreplied to Matt Noyes last edited by
@Matt_Noyes @sam @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer thanks, I think this is a reasonable way forward.
Having said that, please bear with me here It seems we blocked two domains based on vibes/rumors and now we are going to go through a full vote to unlimit them, so there's an asymmetry in process that's leaning conservative here. Just calling it out, it's fine if people want to be conservative (I don't in this case, but it's reasonable in some cases).
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Sam Whitedreplied to In #Flancia we'll meet last edited by
@flancian @Matt_Noyes @emi @hollie @django @dphiffer I don't think it was vibes/rumors, it was based on his own blog post about it and what the community has voted on in the past for similar situations.
Either way though, I feel like we should be at least a bit conservative with anything that makes it easy for corporate social media to vacuum up our users posts personally (though maybe we should also be quicker with a followup on loomio; sorry!)
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In #Flancia we'll meetreplied to django last edited by
@django @emi @hollie @dphiffer @sam @Matt_Noyes no need to be sorry Sam, thank you for opening the question and advancing the conversation! Now we can take next steps as a group and yes, now I also remember there was a controversial post.
You're right Django, it is indeed likely a valuable opportunity.
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In #Flancia we'll meetreplied to django last edited by
@django @hollie @Matt_Noyes @emi @dphiffer @sam done! I tried putting my complaint in a more constructive format and started a poll:
https://www.loomio.com/d/W6tL5cvp/the-bluesky-bridge/35
Made it ranked choice to try that out although maybe it wasn't the most efficient for this kind of process. I thought of changing it after writing it but I was pretty sure Loomio would nuke all the text so I thought: YOLO Also, people can think about how they would rank their own proposal versus the ones that came pollster-defined?
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Matt Noyesreplied to In #Flancia we'll meet last edited by
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@sam @Matt_Noyes @flancian @django @hollie @emi I think the limit also prevents social.coop members from discovering bridged bsky accounts, or at least I haven't figured out how to do it yet. I tried searching for myself on bsky (@[email protected]) and it didn't find anything.
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@dphiffer @Matt_Noyes @flancian @django @hollie @emi interesting, in theory it *should* allow you to find yourself if you put it in directly like that. Maybe the bridge uses some sort of escaping so the username is slightly different or something? If not and it does completely block you from finding it, that's something that we should make sure to update in the poll.
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