Teams destroying relationships

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Well, they decided to launch mostly via cloud, which greatly reduced my install requirements, however, it also didn’t work, and had input issues.

They also added weird sounding AI voice over to everything that sucks.

Then, they promised backward compatibility with any aircraft purchased in 2020 and launched 2024 without a content manager or the said backward compatibility.

That’s only scratching the surface too. I think it should and would have been delayed if 2024 wasn’t in the title and Microsoft would have had to eat crow if it didn’t release in 24.

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Clippy designer.

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I guess that means they don't have an XBox or play a lot of PC games? Maybe they prefer Nintendo or PlayStation?

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Shit, that blows. Make a decent product for over 40 years and didn't think to load test and have everything proper for launch. That's sad

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The problem stems from Microsoft products not working with each other in the way you would expect. I don't mind SharePoint and OneDrive both existing - they have different use cases, but add in teams for accessing files as well, and it all gets very complicated, and things start not working like you think they should.

On a personal level, I find most Microsoft products a confusing mess these days. Outlook on browser is insanely awful. The ribbon thing in office is just random.

The one thing that hasn't terrible is VS Code. It does get a bit random in places, but mostly it's pretty intuitive and nice to use.

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Teams is the evolution of the excellent Microsoft Lync which then became the horrible Skype for Business which then was replaced by the superior Microsoft teams.

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It's that. It's been a hot minute, but (IIRC) for me it was the less-than-great UI/UX that really adds up to a high friction experience. Especially when compared with software like Slack or Discord.

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New Outlook? It’s the only one I can use nowadays but there seems to be no way anymore.

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Having talked to people who were in charge of making some strategic decisions regarding a business messaging application...

Slack/Discord is "too complex and confusing". Apparently the pile of unsorted chats, group chats, and meeting chats, are superior to Discord's threading model.

Also corpos literally do not notice that teams is slow as molasses which is a big part of the friction. You could show them a perfect demonstration that Teams' UI is so much slower to react to anything (nevermind load the actual resource) than the competition and that they often have a 1000+ms audio RTT in meetings (not a hyperbole) and the business people would be like "yeah, I guess? Who cares?"

Corporate types literally can't understand that bad audio and audio latency costs a huge percentage of revenue in lost productivity because everyone's constantly talking over each other and simultaneously being too afraid to speak because the audio delay makes it impossible to fit into a lull in the conversation and also everyone is in a competition for the tiniest shittiest mic with the worst noise canceling that somehow stacks on top of Teams' pretty bad noise cancelation such that their voice is being noise canceled and you're just left with like 1.2 kHz of actual range and somehow everyone seems fine to spend their entire day listening to that and aaaaaaaaa I have a headache and I want to die

Then after work you get on a discord call with the mates and everyone is crystal clear with no noticeable latency, even the students on a secondhand 30 € gaming headset.

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Winner here

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2nd place, bonus points because dad probably used to play those when he still had time for such things.

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We've never used it through Outlook. Only through Teams as a desktop app, as Planner directly in the Office 365 web portal, and by embedding the task board view into our Team group's SharePoint site.

I was just commenting on your conjecture about it potentially not working with Teams. It still does work with Teams.

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Ah I see, sorry