I have now deleted both my SongTradr and my DistroKid accounts.
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate most of the data is ready to go (although I need to finish genre tagging my many many songs), but I still need to finish building the HTML templates (about 60% done) and CSS (havenโt started). Right now my main priority is getting my next album finished.
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy This is 100% true. My hands wonโt move fast enough on the keyboard to make it happen any sooner.
Artists should be able to sell their work online without paying an additional cut to their landlord. Use your own PayPal or Strip account and get paid directly.
As soon as SOMEONE does this, nearly everyone will have to follow.
Itโll be glorious
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] Hmm.. I followed your bandwagon profile from mastodon.social. And, Iโve just closed the loop with โsecure modeโ servers, so you SHOULD be able to follow. I can try making a test account on your server if youโre still having trouble.
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] As far as โwhy on the Fediverse?โ
I think weโre still undervaluing the ability to follow, like, and boost on an open network -- mostly because Fediverse 1.0 has worked so hard to mirror corporate social media.
But there is more power in artistsโ hands if everything happens on the open web. I believe you can reach more people, with fewer intermediaries, and retain more control when your โsocial graphโ isnโt tied to a single server.
Weโll have to build it to find out ๐ฅธ
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy Go get it. Iโll love to see it when itโs done!
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate I just had a "cancel follow" indicator but it looks like something's gotten unstuck now.
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate I mean yeah I'm not a big fan of the Twitter-style social media for following but I still feel like RSS/Atom are a better model for the sharing of trickles of large amounts of content. I know ActivityPub itself intends to support blog-style things but I haven't seen any ecosystem for that sort of stuff within AP, and everything seems to collapse down to How Mastodon Does It.
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy Yup. And unfortunately, following Mastodon is our near-future, too
But..
As more services come online, we can change the paradigm. Bandwagon is an example of using Mastodon as a โnotifications-onlyโ channel, while keeping richer interactions (like listening to music, making playlists, etc) on the more specialized server.
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy Awesome!!
The technical details get really nerdy, but I got this issue sorted out a week or two ago. So if you had trouble following in the past, the universal solution โturn it off, then turn it on againโ works.
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate ActivityPub just seems so much more complicated than RSS/Atom, especially when interop with Mastodon is the main goal
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy Yes. So much more complicated.
The big difference is in real time push (WebSub notwithstanding) and the richer vocabulary of โlikesโ , โrepliesโ, and โboostsโ
There certainly could have been a protocol that delivered those things without ActivityPubโs complexity. But itโs still worth the extra work for those richer features.
I think we just treat Mastodon as the lowest common denominator, guarantee support, then add extra stuff that give richer clients a better experience.
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate IndieWeb adds all those things to plain ol' feeds though, without needing a huge amount of supercomplexity.
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy Yes. I built out WebSub/WebMention support in Emissary/Bandwagon, too.
But somehow IndieWeb doesnโt seem widely supported. I think itโs because thereโs no critical mass for IndieWeb to gather around.
And thatโs whatโs so interesting to me about ActivityPub. Itโs so very imperfect, but Mastodon is a starter mass that could make so many other projects more viable, when they might have failed otherwise.
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate Yeah, I just wish Mastodon had kept with OStatus and then added more on that side and embraced IndieWeb, rather than switching to ActivityPub just because it was slightly more convenient for adding wish-it-were private posts.
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@benpate someday I want to build a pure-indieweb social networking thing, ideally supporting both microblogging and blog-blogging, but I already have a full dance card with my other projects
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy Yeah, it would be cool. IndieWeb is **so** much easier to work with. I think the future is multi-network.
If I get time (or help) Iโd love to add AT protocol to my work.
Imagine one server that cross posts to RSS, ActivityPub, IndieWeb, and AT protocol.
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fluffy ๐replied to Ben Pate ๐ค๐ป last edited by
@benpate yeah I do have plans to eventually add ActivityPub to Publ, because I can do more interesting things with that than what I can get from fed.brid.gy. I have zero interest in ATProto for now though.
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Ben Pate ๐ค๐ปreplied to fluffy ๐ last edited by
@fluffy yeah. ATP is way too hard to tackle right now. Especially when I need to be reading/writing mp3 metadata instead
Do you have your work on GitHub? Iโd love to check it out.