Discussion of the overt fascism now promoted openly by one of the two major parties in the US continues — because of course.

William Lindsey :toad:

@bici I definitely always aim at that. I admire my husband for his ability to "see" people others might overlook, to take notice of them and talk to them. I have learned a lot from his good example over many years.

William Lindsey :toad:

@hamishb Well-stated. Astonishing, for sure. I've come over the years to see racism and its ilk — e.g., xenophobia — as something like a drug that powerfully stupefies people. It allures, entices, provides a thrill, and at the same time, it dumbs people down so they can't see that they are harming themselves as they direct hate at others.

Nicole Parsons

@wdlindsy

Trump's proposed immigrant round-ups talk about detention centers first.

The detention centers are to be slave labor camps with detainees

Similar to how China's Uigher slave labor camps function. Or Hitler's

The proposal is to make immigrants work unpaid before eventually being deported

Trump has a long history of not paying his workers. The rich want the same

The GOP's private prison donors seek to exploit the labor of detainees.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-05-11/us-prison-labor-powers-billions-in-corporate-government-revenue

https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2024/07/detainees-immigrants-labor-rights/

William Lindsey :toad:

@cwicseolfor Yes, that seems right to me. Those with lots of resources think that if they side with less well-heeled bigots in their crusade to attack immigrants, "their own" immigrants will be safe, because their money will protect them. This is parallel to the abortion issue, where wealthy people colluding with culture warriors to rip abortion rights from others assume that they and their kind will not have to worry, since they can always affrord an abortion.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Npars01 Thank you for pointing that out. Yes, I think this is exactly how the camps they're envisaging are being thought of. At the same time, I think it's important to note that the many Americans who are hungering for this to happen do not seem to understand that rounding up and interning millions of people as a prelude to deportation will harm themselves in ways they don't seem to foresee.

William Lindsey :toad:

@MoiraEve That's right. Hatred of LGBTQ people and defense of a patriarchal way of doing business what wants to keep women in their place, just as you say.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Stevielee Indeed.

Christo. London, England

@wdlindsy
I think he is simply a senile, nasty crook

William Lindsey :toad:

@Christo_459 He's that, too — and all the more dangerous because he seeks power over billions of people.

Nicole Parsons

@wdlindsy

China never foresaw the consequences of their slave labor camps either.

Multinationals moving out. Sanctions. Reputational damage. Imports stop. The spread of slavery. International fraud.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/society-equity/us-bans-imports-five-more-chinese-companies-over-uyghurs-2024-08-08/

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

(www.bloomberg.com)

Vietnam Overtakes China as Largest Exporter of Goods Made With Uyghur Forced Labor

US Customs and Border Patrol report found that in 2023, Vietnam exported greatest value of products that were denied entry to the US.

Voice of America (www.voanews.com)

nytimes.com

(www.nytimes.com)

nytimes.com

(www.nytimes.com)

7 Months Inside an Online Scam Labor Camp

A man was abducted by a Chinese gang and forced to work in a scam operation. He gathered financial information, photos and videos and shared the material with The New York Times.

(www.nytimes.com)

US blocks imports from 26 Chinese textile firms over suspected Uyghur forced labor | CNN Business

Washington (Reuters) — The United States has barred imports from 26 Chinese cotton traders or warehouse facilities on Thursday as part of its effort to eliminate goods made with the forced labor of Uyghur minorities from the US supply chain.

CNN (www.cnn.com)

'Their goal is to destroy everyone': Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape

In new testimony, former detainees of China's detention camps describe systematic rape and torture.

(www.bbc.com)

Access Denied

(www.motortrend.com)

Both Amazon, Shein, & Temu implicated.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/business/economy/shein-temu-forced-labor-china.html

William Lindsey :toad:

@Npars01 Yes — and I think it's people in general and not only national leaders or those crafting these plans that need to be challenged to educate themselves about what happens to them, to everyone, when they choose to vent hate in this way.

Nicole Parsons

@wdlindsy

The South never acknowledged the harms of slavery either. Modern Republicanism is based on that delusional denial.

Harriet Beecher Stowe was reviled in the South for rubbing their nose in it.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/white-southerners-said-uncle-toms-cabin-was-fake-news-180962518/

The Black fugitive who inspired ‘Uncle Tom’s Cabin’ and the end of US slavery • SC Daily Gazette

An English professor at Clemson writes about the SC slave who escaped and played a key role in the writing of "Uncle Tom's Cabin."

SC Daily Gazette (scdailygazette.com)

“Uncle Tom’s Cabin” and the Art of Persuasion

Annette Gordon-Reed writes that with “Uncle Tom’s Cabin” Harriet Beecher Stowe achieved what endless speeches in the halls of Congress and newspaper articles failed to do: she made the reality of slavery palpable to the American public.

The New Yorker (www.newyorker.com)

The Man Who Became Uncle Tom

Harriet Beecher Stowe said that Josiah Henson’s life had inspired her most famous character. But Henson longed to be recognized by his own name, and for his own achievements.

The Atlantic (www.theatlantic.com)

Slave owners never see the inner moral rot & public corruption that comes from slavery.
https://theconversation.com/ai-companions-promise-to-combat-loneliness-but-history-shows-the-dangers-of-one-way-relationships-221086

Just a moment...

(www.politico.com)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/its-not-wrong-to-say-college-sports-is-like-slavery-its-wrong-that-no-ones-trying-to-fix-that/2018/05/08/564b789c-52df-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html

Moral decay didn’t pull that trigger

Moral decay is not killing us. We’ve been morally decayed forever.

al (www.al.com)

MerelyAHut

@wdlindsy we just got our roof replaced. We wondered the same thing. I speak some Spanish and was able to talk to the workers. All very nice and polite; patient as I struggled to use my Spanish.They arrived before dawn at 6:30 AM and left way after the sun went down, taking only a break for lunch. Tell me what MAGA would do that?

John "Sakata"

@wdlindsy
Honestly with the way that this shit is going I'm starting to think that the government should offer police wellness checks every hour during and maybe until handover for all election workers.
Would be tax dollars put to good use. Wasteful considering it shouldn't be needed, but yeah.
Don't these dumbasses know that the election people count *their* votes too? and that generally most places ensure they have a fair mix of all parties that are representing in their county?

William Lindsey :toad:

@MerelyAHut This is EXACTLY what we saw this summer when a crew of hard-working Hispanic immigrant men put a new roof on the house of our next-door neighbor. They started at daylight and worked till dusk with only a lunch break.

And these are the people we claim are harming all of us in some way? The people we want to round up and deport?

Something's wrong with us, it seems.

William Lindsey :toad:

"For nearly a decade, the American mainstream has failed over and over again to understand what Donald Trump is, what he means, how he works. ...

Many of Trump’s voters know exactly what he is. They know he’s going to blow the status quo to smithereens and they want him to. They want him to be incompetent, they want him to be senile, they want him to be cruel."

~ Timothy Burke

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
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Trump Essentials (1)

#1: He Is A Suicide Bomber, And That His Appeal

(timothyburke.substack.com)

William Lindsey :toad:

"They want him to violate every one of the Ten Commandments in public view. ...

Nothing you tell a convinced Trump voter about Trump’s qualifications, problems or likely actions matters to them. In fact, you are only convincing them more. Everything you fear and loathe about Trump is a recommendation to them."

And (my footnote), they may very well get their way, this election cycle.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
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cognitively accessible math

@wdlindsy they're quoting the cult missives, which should be shut down...

William Lindsey :toad:

@geonz When you refer to cult missives, I'm not quite clear what you mean. Can you please help me understand?

William Lindsey :toad:

@sakata_m Thank you for voicing those concerns. Election workers really need a lot of reinforcement and support, seems to me. And, no, I think the dumbasses don't even reflect that the election workers are counting their votes, too.