Discussion of the overt fascism now promoted openly by one of the two major parties in the US continues — because of course.

William Lindsey :toad:

Who will do all their work when they round up the immigrants and deport them? I keep asking myself. Have they really thought through what they're proposing to do to THEMSELVES as they vent their hate for a targeted minority community?

This is the problem with bigotry and hate: it makes people drunk, as it were, drunk with elation at finally being able to show open contempt for people they despise.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/18

William Lindsey :toad:

And in intoxicating themselves with that unholy elation, they blind themselves to the harm that they always do to THEMSELVES by venting hatred against targeted minority groups.

Heather Souvaine Horn (see /16) notes that rounding up and deporting millions of immigrants would have devastating effects on the US food supply.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/19

William Lindsey :toad:

It would affect US. It would seriously affect the very people jubilant about the idea of deporting millions of Americans.

I think about this as my husband and I walk daily past the house of an extremely rich Republican neighbor who had Trump signs in front of her house in 2016 and 2020, though I see none this year. Maybe they're still to come.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/20

William Lindsey :toad:

As we walk past her house daily, we often see crews of gardeners working in her beautiful gardens. They are ALL Hispanic men. Or we see a car full of Hispanic women parking, the women getting out of the car with cleaning supplies to go into the huge mansion and clean it.

My spouse makes a point always of stopping to talk to these folks in Spanish, greeting them, talking about the weather, asking how they are.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/21

William Lindsey :toad:

And as we walk on after those conversations take place, I always ask myself, Who do they think will tend these gardens and clean these houses when they have all those workers rounded up and deported? Who will repair our streets? Who will put new roofs on our houses? Who will take down trees and climb up and cut out diseased limbs in trees?

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/22

William Lindsey :toad:

For that matter, who will provide medical care for us? A large percentage of my doctors and my dentist, too, are all foreign-born immigrants, highly skilled people whose services we sorely need — just as we need the hard labor of those folks cleaning our houses, doing our garden work and yard work, repairing our streets, putting roofs on our houses, doing tree work.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/23

William Lindsey :toad:

Who will do all these things for us when we vent our rage, drunk with the elation of hurting other people — and when we hurt ourselves badly in the process?

Maybe we should think about this before we get drunk on hate.

#Trump #fascism #violence #PoliticsofHate #immigrants #racism #WhiteSupremacy
/24

William Lindsey :toad:

@MoiraEve Well-stated. These are excellent points. I agree. There are also well-documented very strong ties between Putin and the hard-right of US Christianity.

Stevielee

@wdlindsy we must never allow this to happen. Vote

MoiraEve

@wdlindsy Yes, Putin and US Christians share common values—chief among them, hatred of LGBTQ. That alone is a strong motivator for the US RW to vote for trump and to herald trump’s support of Putin. Another common interest of many US evangelicals and Putin—the subjection of women to 2nd class citizens.

cwicseolfor

@wdlindsy Those with all the money aren't on the same team in the fallout as their "useful idiots." They know the price of labor would skyrocket, they recognize that most people won't be able to afford basics. They know that will plunge many of their average voters down into the depths of working poverty, whence they'll be willing to take the roles formerly occupied by the immigrants they ousted. But the money, power, prestige will have concentrated to fewer hands: the real goal.

Hamish Buchanan

It is astonishing how much some people hate those they depend on to make the world they enjoy possible.

@wdlindsy

William Lindsey :toad:

"The armed North Carolina man arrested Saturday for allegedly threatening FEMA workers says he was motivated to intervene in person by that blitz of bogus social media posts about Hurricane Helene aid being withheld – and semi-admits to being bamboozled: 'I went up and saw that there was absolutely nothing there, so I stayed, and I volunteered all day.'”

~ David Kurtz

#Trump #fascism #disinformation #lies #FEMA
/25

Kamala Harris Punctures The Fox News Bubble In Her Own Way

INSIDE: Donald Trump ... Stormy Daniels ... Jimmy Carter

(morningmemo.talkingpointsmemo.com)

Vanni Di Ponzano ⁂🚴 ❤️ ☕ 🍎

@wdlindsy

always be kind to all on your walks about your city.

William Lindsey :toad:

@bici I definitely always aim at that. I admire my husband for his ability to "see" people others might overlook, to take notice of them and talk to them. I have learned a lot from his good example over many years.

William Lindsey :toad:

@hamishb Well-stated. Astonishing, for sure. I've come over the years to see racism and its ilk — e.g., xenophobia — as something like a drug that powerfully stupefies people. It allures, entices, provides a thrill, and at the same time, it dumbs people down so they can't see that they are harming themselves as they direct hate at others.

Nicole Parsons

@wdlindsy

Trump's proposed immigrant round-ups talk about detention centers first.

The detention centers are to be slave labor camps with detainees

Similar to how China's Uigher slave labor camps function. Or Hitler's

The proposal is to make immigrants work unpaid before eventually being deported

Trump has a long history of not paying his workers. The rich want the same

The GOP's private prison donors seek to exploit the labor of detainees.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-05-11/us-prison-labor-powers-billions-in-corporate-government-revenue

https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2024/07/detainees-immigrants-labor-rights/

William Lindsey :toad:

@cwicseolfor Yes, that seems right to me. Those with lots of resources think that if they side with less well-heeled bigots in their crusade to attack immigrants, "their own" immigrants will be safe, because their money will protect them. This is parallel to the abortion issue, where wealthy people colluding with culture warriors to rip abortion rights from others assume that they and their kind will not have to worry, since they can always affrord an abortion.

William Lindsey :toad:

@Npars01 Thank you for pointing that out. Yes, I think this is exactly how the camps they're envisaging are being thought of. At the same time, I think it's important to note that the many Americans who are hungering for this to happen do not seem to understand that rounding up and interning millions of people as a prelude to deportation will harm themselves in ways they don't seem to foresee.

William Lindsey :toad:

@MoiraEve That's right. Hatred of LGBTQ people and defense of a patriarchal way of doing business what wants to keep women in their place, just as you say.