"Of all the American princes of the Church, outside of that ridiculous popinjay Raymond Burke, Dolan is among the most insufferable. He plays the jocular, backslapping Irishman while his rap sheet on burying the ongoing sexual-abuse scandal is one of t...
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
"It is tragic that the guest of honor this year will be someone whose personal example and policy wishes are in a collision course with the principles of Catholic social teaching."
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Old Man in the Shoereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy I don't know of a group that helps migrants more than The Catholic Charities.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
And lest we be tempted to succumb to the very old and tired trope of anti-Catholicism that remains alive and well in some sectors of American (and British) culture, let's keep in mind PRRI's recent finding that this election cycle, 81% of white evangelicals and 60% of white mainline Protestants are poised to vote for Trump.
Trump and the fascism the GOP now peddles are brought to us by white US Christians.
#Trump #Christians #WhiteEvangelicals #MainlineProtestants
/9Challenges to Democracy: The 2024 Election in Focus | PRRI
The 15th annual American Values Survey reveals deep political divisions and emerging challenges to democratic norms as well as Americansβ attitudes about the 2024 election, the overall direction of the country, the state of the economy, and the broader health of our democracy.
PRRI | At the intersection of religion, values, and public life. (www.prri.org)
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Old Man in the Shoe last edited by
@jenzi Yes, Catholic Charities has long done outstanding work to assist migrants. Not sure if you're responding to a particular statement in the thread, but I agree with your point.
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James Trickle uPreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Another reason why I congratulate myself on being an ex-Catholic.
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Old Man in the Shoereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Just your specific point about the confluence of Trump and his rhetoric and the charities they are raising money for. What I saw was fairly gross, they kissed up to Trump more than God himself.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to James Trickle uP last edited by
@opalmirror I'm sure you're in very good company there.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Old Man in the Shoe last edited by
@jenzi That was actually Jonathan V. Last writing that sentence. He's a very conservative Catholic who is also a never-Trumper β and you perhaps knew all that, so I'm probably telling you things you knew. I agree wholeheartedly: totally gross, how they kissed up to Trump. And very much in line with Timothy Dolan's history and the behavior of many American Catholics, Vance included.
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David Nicereplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Look at that so-called man of God grinning. Normalisation like this is part of the USA's massive problem.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to David Nice last edited by
@davidpnice Yes, I agree. As Charles Pierce says, speaking as a lifelong Catholic himself, Dolan has long been a disgrace to many of us who see something very different in Catholic teaching and practice than Dolan does.
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Pamelareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy The Catholic Church FAILED to be what they pretend to be. It wasn't about charity; it was about supporting a facist!!!
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Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy its interesting to note that Project 25 plus the behaviour of USA tradcaths appears to have quietly shifted ETWN to be more *liberal*, something I didn't expect would happen!
(They've even dumped Gab and Trump Social from their social media presence on the "yoof" site ChurchPop). Its not an overt "mea culpa", but they do appear to be regretting some choices..
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Tafkakreplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Shocked that the Catholics would be open to authoritarianism. Has anyone alerted the Pope?
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Pamela last edited by
@luv_wins I'd say a certain sector of the Catholic church has royally failed to live up to what it professes to believe β the sector represented by the US Catholic bishops and the 60% of white Catholics that keep voting for Trump. Latino Catholics and Catholics of color move in a very different direction.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Tafkak last edited by
@tafkak The trend to authoritarianism among white Christians in the US, with 81% of white evangelicals and 60% of white mainline Protestants saying they'll vote for Trump, does not surprise me. It's a deeply rooted trend in US culture β as is anti-Catholicism.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK last edited by
@vfrmedia Interesting. I had not been following those developments. I understand your surprise!
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Joanna Czechowskareplied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Catholic church is rotten to the core.
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MamiyaMan π¨π¦ πΊπ¦replied to William Lindsey :toad: last edited by
@wdlindsy Indeed. And the hierarchy yukking it up with him to boot.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to MamiyaMan π¨π¦ πΊπ¦ last edited by
@mamiyaman Absolutely. Absolutely disgusting.
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William Lindsey :toad:replied to Joanna Czechowska last edited by
@JoCzechowska I'm going to keep my sights on the broader perspective as I see that 81% of white evangelicals and 60% of white mainline Protestants are poised to vote for Trump this election.