the amount of slop saying "wait till the end" is too damn high

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I've heard this law mentioned before, but interestingly in that same Wikipedia article there are several studies mentioned that seemed to conclude it's not true at all:

A 2016 study of a sample of academic journals (not news publications) that set out to test Betteridge's law and Hinchliffe's rule (see below) found that few titles were posed as questions and of those that were questions, few were yes/no questions and they were more often answered "yes" in the body of the article rather than "no".

A 2018 study of 2,585 articles in four academic journals in the field of ecology similarly found that very few titles were posed as questions at all, with 1.82 percent being wh-questions and 2.15 percent being yes/no questions. Of the yes/no questions, 44 percent were answered "yes", 34 percent "maybe", and only 22 percent were answered "no".

In 2015, a study of 26,000 articles from 13 news sites on the World Wide Web, conducted by a data scientist and published on his blog, found that the majority (54 percent) were yes/no questions, which divided into 20 percent "yes" answers, 17 percent "no" answers and 16 percent whose answers he could not determine.

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I have blocked at least one "videos" community, since I have no interest in watching anything masquerading as informative. I've been on Lemmy a bunch lately, so I can only assume that I've pre-emptively blocked the instance or community where it's being posted.

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Every time I've seen people use this the thing that happens at the end should've been the entire video and/or wasn't even funny/worth watching.

lurch (he/him)

AWS or Azure?

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When a "Shorts" starts with Watch Till the end for "X" & spouts a big load of Bull throughout the start, yeah it's Clickbait

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Short form video and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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And the constant lamenting on how we're behind the syllabus and how we need to move on, like it's a race and not an educational process.

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Oh yeah, im no stranger to blocking users and entire communities on this platform….there’s just usually the initial wave of whatever the new spam is until i can get my feed cleaned up again.

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Lol my mind went straight to thinking this was some type of apocalypse trend.

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No, I understood perfectly.
Capitalism causes apps to be shitty
But you don't understand that capitalism isn't the only reason that apps become shitty.

And out comes the big "algorithm" Boogeyman, decried by people who don't know what an algorithm is.

You know why it's easy to put down Lemmy? Because it does a horrifically shitty job at presenting you with new content that you're actually interested in. That it. That's the entire story. You're less addicted because it's less enjoyable. That is literally the entire thing.

Lemmy has all the parts needed for the same experience: an infinitely scrolling list of bite sized content. The only difference is that there is way less content here, and there is no discovery (meaning it keeps you in your own self-defined echo chamber).
Lemmy is a reddit clone, and if you're gonna tell me that people aren't addicted to reddit at similarly "dangerous" rates then I'ma full on call you a liar with my entire full chest.

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What about those people? They're mainly the aforementioned hypocrites.

You're worried about Tiktok privacy? Good, you should be. You should ALSO be worried about privacy everywhere else you go. Where is your concerned about Lemmy's privacy? People who think Lemmy is private are like the people who think that blockchain makes your transactions untraceable.

You're worried about being fed empty content? Ok I guess. Where is your concern about brainrot content on Lemmy? Nobody is being outraged by [email protected] or [email protected] or [email protected].
And if you think all content on Tiktok (or most content presented to users) is like that, then that says more about whoever told you that than it does about Tiktok.

You seem more than happy enough to be a pig being fed by Lemmy.

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I immediately skip when I hear/see::

"Wait for it"
Overused trending meme music
Overused trending AI voice
Useless people pointing
Useless people in the corner
Split screen of irrelevant mobile game
Anything Stranger Things. I haven't caught up yet.

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Also the video cuts out ten seconds too soon to really rub it in

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Would you care to explain why and how is Lemmy feeding me? I'm not saying Lemmy is exempt of the bad kind of content and behaviour or even me getting addicted to social media(federated or otherwise), but it is surely not motivated to do so because it gains nothing from doing so. Last time I checked federated platform do not use algorithms to filter and sort content, do not show advertisements and so on.

Final question, what would one that has those corcerns have to do so that they would not be a hypocrite? Asking geniunely... Are you concerned about those things? And if so what have you done about it?

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I understand your point. I don't agree, but I see what you are getting at.

Addiction and enjoyment are not the same though. The millions of league of legends players are evidence enough of that

Either way, each to their own. I shall leave you to enjoy something you enjoy, but I still believe it is evil.

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So you're still ensnared by the useless red circle? Thank you, I'll update my AI content slop machine

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Lemmy is an infinite feed of empty bitesized content. It may not have a purpose in feeding you, but it does all the same. Or what do you mean by "feeding"? I interpret that as presenting you with the mental equivalent of empty calories. It's not motivated by ad money to do so, but that doesn't mean it's not motivated, or that it even needs motivation to do so. In fact, Lemmy is largely just a reddit clone, so simply by copying reddit it inherited many of the UX design choices.
All social networks, including federated platforms, use "algorithms" to surface content. The algorithm that Lemmy uses is very simple, but using a more complex algorithm is not inherently bad. People use "algorithm" as some kind of boogyman word without understanding it or considering what it means.

To not be a hypocrite you should treat all social networks with a similar critical eye. I'm not gonna say that they're all equally evil, but when you criticize something that other people like, then you should be willing and even eager to turn that same eye on the things you like.
I am concerned about those things. I do very little about it. It's a cost I just have to be aware of when I use these services. Specifically wrt social networks I stopped using the ones that don't bring me enjoyment.

Wrt Tiktok specifically, I find it less predatory than the other for profit platforms, but I don't blame people for not using it if they don't like it. I just check myself before I say anything elitist about social networks preferences

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Lemmy is an infinite feed of empty bitesized content.

Would that mean that your point is that every social media platform is full of empty content? I would agree that the internet in general is somewhat empty now, but objectively speaking TikTok short video format is not meant for rich content so that would make it the more "empty" that any other social platform.

I have to ask you what platform are not an "infinite feed of empty bitesized content" to understand better your point perhaps.

Or what do you mean by “feeding”?

I mean that the platform traps people by encouraging/pushing you to keep scrolling for the next high. Just like one would feed a cow or pig, to later harvest a better product. Ever since I stopped using Facebook, Instagram and the likes my time spent on social media decreased abysmally.

As you said Lemmy also feeds content, but what it does not do is insert suggested content within your selections(feeds). If I sort by "All" all posts appear, "Local" for all local posts and "Subscribed" for my personal selection, all of those are sorted chronologically and in none will be a "Suggested Post or Advertisement". Granted I do filter (skip) posts in my subscription but not regularly, just like anyone would skipping pages on a newspaper. And as you said, nothing inherently wrong with automatic topic filtering, that is a great feature to have I would love if Lemmy would have a automatic topic or tag filter. That all good and dandy but when is driven by interest in revenue it becomes more of a nuisance and possibly a harmful addiction specially when they remove the option to filter by time. Have to say that nothing against advertisements, businesses need to generate revenue and that is fine.

As for user content communities might be incentivized to attract and "feed" but that is not the platform doing it.

I just check myself before I say anything elitist about social networks preferences

I would like for anyone to join Lemmy or whatever platform that does not suck on your blood, I do not think any better of me for using Lemmy or a different content format and I would like to share whatever I have with the world. If Lemmy is and elitist platform I would not know anything about it and most certainly take no part in it. To be honest I do not know what this elitism you mention is coming from.

When I say "I see TikTok, I dislike" it is because of the harm it does to people and most definitely not aimed towards the people using it. It breaks my heart every time I see people with their neck crooked scrolling endlessly in TikTok, I see this everyday in the subway, in the street and everywhere. Kids and even elderly people suffering the effects of it. I really hope this ends someday, and if you think it is not that serious I would encourage you to check the amount of hours a kid spends on TikTok(not saying they would spend any time at all on the phone if it wasn't for TikTok but TikTok obviously does not help at all). Not to mention TikTok knows all the harm it does but could not give a shit.

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Would that mean that your point is that every social media platform is full of empty content? [...] TikTok short video format is not meant for rich content so that would make it the more "empty" that any other social platform.

this is the kind of uninformed and elitist opinions I'm taking about.
Tiktok personalizes your feed. You say that is a negative, but my tiktok feed is full of, for example, nuanced political and social takes from people of various backgrounds.
My Lemmy feed is vapid by comparison.

There are two reasons for that: \

Lemmy is on average much shorter content than tiktok.\
Tiktok exposes me to concepts I wouldn't ever even think to search out on my own, where Lemmy keeps me in my own little manicured echo chamber.

I have learned more about CRT and intersectionality and the reality of disability on Tiktok than anywhere else.

But even if that wasn't the case, and it was really just 10 second dance videos, like you seem to think, the only real difference is that Tiktok is able to find new things you like, where scrolling about 5 minutes on Lemmy has exhausted all the new interesting content in the channels I know about. I don't really hold it against Tiktok that they providing videos people want to see when people ask to see videos. in fact Tiktok used to insert videos telling you to go touch grass if you were scrolling too long.
Not everyone will have a feed like mine, full of educational content, but as an example that there is an abundance of such content on the platform.

I think that all social media is fairly unhealthy.
Non-profit social media is probably the least unhealthy (although usually also the least interesting or useful).
Tiktok is probably the least predatory and most beneficial of the for profit social networks.

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I think we agree that social media in general can harmful but it does not seems that way on the rest. So lets leave it at that.