I'm still on the fence about mastodon's choice not to notify people when they get quote posted.

Marco Rogers

@thisismissem @raucao to answer this specific question, my initial assumption was that mastodon would do something like this. With the challenge being that C) doesn't really work in a federated environment. But the other two things should probably still happen.
https://social.polotek.net/@polotek/113411468788918556

Risotto Voted

@polotek @thisismissem @raucao

can't you inspect a URL and detect if it's a mastodon post? yeah during link previews.

but yeah in the UI it could be more intentional

or, if your mastodon host caches the format of other host's posts, you would know e.g. "xyz.com/notes/post123" vs "other.com/@username/post123"

(that could be a nodeinfo piece of information - then you pre-load that on any encountered host and notify local users if local posts are quoted by external posts in the inbox)

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@polotek oh i meant less that they don’t exist at a protocol level and more that they don’t exist at a semantic or ontological level. which is to say: when people talk about “quote posts”, they are drawing from their experience with twitter’s implementation of converting trailing links to tweets into embedded previews. twitter then went on to auto-notify anyone who got linked, as well as add a button to auto-inject a link at the end of your tweet after you send it.

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@polotek so if we want to make “quote posts” real, we need to unpack and define each of the components that make up a “quote post” in theory.

this is where the “auto-notify someone they’ve been linked to” thing comes up. i think this is something that should be the choice of the person doing the quoting. in current terms, clients that support client-side“quote posts” might inject a mention of the person alongside the link to their post.

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@polotek It would be more than a little weird if Mastodon started to parse every single received post for a link, then if it’s a link to some local status, generate a notification for that user. I think such behavior would get me to not only stop using Mastodon entirely, but also completely block any and all Mastodon servers from following me as long as they implemented this behavior.

Emelia 👸🏻

@polotek @raucao interestingly, on Bluesky, if a user disabled quote posting you can't even post a link to that post, which feels wrong but I get why they did it.

I don't know if this works across PDSs or AppViews.

Emelia 👸🏻

@risottobias @polotek @raucao post IRIs and post URLs are not necessarily the same, you'd still need some way to know "this is a fediverse server" and "this is the post IRI (the json version)

Risotto Voted

@thisismissem @polotek @raucao something to encode in nodeinfo.

Emelia 👸🏻

@risottobias @polotek @raucao right, but we can't be hitting /.well-known/nodeinfo for every link posted?

Risotto Voted

@thisismissem @polotek @raucao at the very least for every server you get a post from, at least once.

or from a gossip'd metadata file that every node builds up and you could get from any node (which would include the server that quote posts, after their first quote post of your server)