Wow!

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

Yup. Startups are a chicken-and-egg problem, where each new thing depends on something else already existing.

I didn't want to build "discovery" until there was something there to discover. Same with digital sales.

That's why the 99 band milestone was so important. It's enough to build out the next set of features.

There's a lot to do. If you know any #HTML or #Golang developers with too much free time, and a chip on their shoulder, tell them to consider joining the effort.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@pynk

Sorry this isn't on the website, because it's a common question.

Online sales is absolutely important. It's on my radar, and I'm hoping I can start working on it before the end of the year.

When it's done, it will likely use musicians' own payment accounts (like PayPal or Venmo) so that 100% of the money goes to them.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@pynk

Re: privacy policy -- this is one of many legal aspects that I don't have worked out yet.

The principle is that anything uploaded to my server is wholly owned by the artist, under their total control, and would not be used for any kind of spam.

I should definitely write that out more completely and add it to the website.

Is there a privacy policy that you'd recommend that I model for this?

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@vick21 @Tamasg

I hope so too. #Accessibility is important -- especially for an app based on music

I've talked to a couple of screen reader users, who have bravely volunteered to test out early versions of this code

They've told me that it works well (mostly) and I'm still running through their feedback to make things better

So I won't say Bandwagon is 100% WCAG compliant, but please try it out and let me know if you have any trouble. I jump on accessibility issues as quick as possible

🩷💜 PYNK 💜🩷

@[email protected] @[email protected]
You keep harping on covering your "hosting costs"
There are people who host services that literally stream FHD (or higher!) videos downlink and operate wholly off of donations.

Do you realize how this makes you look in comparison? If you care so much about the artists then why is this entire thing predicated on you collecting digital toll from them?

Papa

@[email protected] I used Chromium to register (successfully) and then Vivaldi (my gui accnt.) Again, success. I have not made my new accnt. public at this time. So, everything appears to be working correctly.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

Hey @pynk

You're obviously looking for a fight, but I won't give you that.

I've been open about Bandwagon, what it does, and where it still needs work. Nobody is forced to beta test my software. And anyone can use my work for free.

So I'll work on a privacy policy, along with the countless other ways that Bandwagon should still be better.

The Fediverse is better when we work together. So let's work together to build great things, and not just tear them down because they aren't yet perfect.

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@Papa Okay, that's great. Please let me know if you have any more trouble.

Randulo.com

@benpate Excellent initiative, I'm in!

hairylarry

@benpate

I'm on Bandwagon but I lost track during my fall festival season. I do have some more albums I want to post.

Thanks

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@hairylarry Of course! I just sent you a "password reset" email that should get you in.

If you have any more trouble, let me know

hairylarry

@benpate

No, I'm fine. I didn't forget my password. I just forgot about Bandwagon while I was playing festivals. So I'm glad I saw your post.

Bebop Beatniks did record a new live album and then, later, I dug a forgotten NJHB show out of the pre-pandemic vault and I almost have it ready too.

I'm still on bandcamp but it's not federated. I used to run a funkwhale instance but my server blew up at a time when I didn't have time to figure it out.

Bandwagon looks pretty good to me, right now.

hairylarry

@benpate

I went to your Bandwagon page and I'm enjoying How To Stop Time. Kind of a Gospel feel merging into hiphop. Have you thought of getting someone to rhyme on top of this?

How To Stop Time https://bandwagon.fm/66e386e34c86ea48ed036b2d

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@hairylarry So glad to hear all of that!

I think Bandcamp is going to be the big player for a while. Heck, maybe we can even pressure them into federating over AcivityPub, too

I strongly believe if you just make a better product, people will find you (eventually) so that's what we're gonna do. Give all of them a run for their money, and make the whole "industry" better in the process

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@hairylarry You'll want to send this to @stefan

Stefan Bohacek

@benpate @hairylarry Already did! https://gamerplus.org/@hairylarry/113340821266291031

Nice to see my work getting discovered on Bandwagon!

Clifton Molina

@benpate sounds awesome. I have questions. I'm not a creator. But an avid listener and sharer of free-trade taper audio of live music, stuff on archive.org. Affiliated with @phishnet . Can I self host?

Ben Pate 🤘🏻

@clifmo @phishnet

Yes! You can self-host Bandwagon.

With that said, things are still changing very quickly, so I'm encouraging Bands to start with my server, then migrate away once the rate of change slows.

If you're a dev/admin/enthusiast, you can definitely tinker with it. Your insights are super-helpful with that aforementioned "rate of change"

I've tried to answer this in more detail here: https://bandwagon.fm/self-hosting. PLEEEAAASE let me know if I can help you with specifics

Clifton Molina

@benpate @phishnet I mean the clause for unoriginal recordings, band authorized, free trade taper recordings. Thanks!

Dan

@benpate I'm excited for the prospect of how this could work with the Fediverse. Maybe I subscribe to artists as a Mastodon user to see when they drop new albums? Comment on tracks? Install a music app that lets me listen to "radio" of random tracks from my followed artists.

Long term ideas of course, and maybe not in line with what you have in mind (particularly if artists will be trying to make money), but I look forward to seeing where this goes!