The biggest problem of humanity is that We are Animals pretending not to be Animals

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How can I not though? Every human is capable of doing these things. What makes us better than animals is that we can cooperate on much grander things that extend beyond death

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I don't believe you are capable of any of the examples you mentioned.

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Hey bud? Octupi are developed enough to maintain neighborhood communities, and they managed to avoid inventing money, taxes, and HoAs. They're also not actively destroying the planet.

Let's not pretend like anything we are doing has an inherent good to it. Animal societies looking different to ours doesn't make them inferior to ours. What humanity has wrought is nothing to brag about.

Jerkface (any/all)

We don't pretend we are not animals. We pretend we are the ONLY animals, and all others are merely objects.

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The Apex Animal, the Uber-animal, the Sigma Animal

NONE

You're so damn right! We can't pull us apart of nature and neither everything we do!

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You're not wrong but I think you're missing the point. The point is that a lot of people believe that everything that makes Earth has an intrinsic value in and of itself. That doesn't mean that us as humans as part of the earth can't capture some of that value and put it to our own efforts, it does mean that we should have respect for the living and non-living things that make up our planet and can't take everything. Just because Dolphin's didn't invent the light bulb doesn't mean they don't have their own value to themselves. It just means that we don't understand it.

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Oh yeah I didn’t mean it as in because we are superior we should step over all of the living beings on the earth. They might not have the same mental capability as us but I do agree that they can feel and do serve a purpose on the earth alongsides us.

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If you're belief is that any human is capable of these things but not yet educated, how do you humans are the only ones that can be taught?

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Because humans have studied the brains of other creatures and from what we know, it is unlikely that any other species can do so.

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If this diffinition sits well with you, you're probably theist.

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Yup. Pollution is natural. It's not about what's natural, but what keeps our environment in a state where we can thrive.

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Emm... Could you elaborate, please?

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The problem is saying that what we're capable of makes us "better" and "superior." Says who? That "superiority" will probably also be what kills us off.

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If something a person create is unatural then it must be produced by something other then nature. How are we not a part of the natural world?

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In my opinion, our mental capability does make us better as we are able to adapt and innovate much faster than regular animals would, which can get us out of awful situations.

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Yes, we are very adaptable, which has allowed us to spread over pretty much the whole world and shape it to our needs. However, we also are destroying the ecosystem that keeps us alive, which is getting us into an awful situation entirely of our own making.

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We can and are doing terrible things, that I do agree with. But we can also do many great things. The fact that we can do so much as a species does, from my point of view, make us superior.

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But we are nature, part of it, therefore everything we do is natural too, I totally convince of it. My problem is that some of us act like we were something apart from nature, above even.

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That's my point. The way we use the words natural and unnatural are not congruent with their definition.