Now that #Brazil has banned Xitter, where are Brazilian people going?
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Sharon of the Strange Timesreplied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova Why would you chose an option that is destined to be monetized and subject to corporate whims? If you have a bad experience here, you switch servers or stop following those people. It's pretty simple math, really.
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Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋replied to R Scott Jones last edited by
@rscottjones @wonkothesane I’m sorry but this is wishful thinking
As a start, the overwhelming majority of people don’t want and/or don’t know how to run their instance
And even if they wanted to, properly running an instance is actually very complicated. Trust me, I tried.
It’s not, never was, and will never be, a realistic answer
Once again, I’m sorry but yes, this is textbook elitism to suggest a solution the overwhelming majority of people can’t really use
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Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋replied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
I’m muting this
Not that I’m surprised, but too many of the conversations this thread generated were very unpleasant, in a typical Mastodon way
If the feature existed, I would also close replies
But Mastodon doesn’t have enough resources to implement it, which is a massive trust and safety issue in my opinion
Not Mastodon’s team fault, but the end result is the same
I’m going back to Bluesky
Peace ️
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R Scott Jonesreplied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova @wonkothesane Oh please. It’s as easy as Bluesky to sign up.
And I’m not techie at all and run two instances via masto.host and it takes fewer clicks than an Amazon order. But that doesn’t matter, because it’s not a requirement. But it wouldn’t take much to run your own friends-first instance.
But again, your definition of “success” might be much, *much* different than what many existing users here want. That’s not elitism, it’s just a different way of being.
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Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦replied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova If people want to go to billionaire oligarch owned places like threads/bluesky, fine.
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Word of Mouth 🍄 :emacs:replied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@[email protected] @[email protected] Soooo... you're just here to bitch about "Mastodon" in comparison to the more profitable (for somebody, probably not you) "Bluesky".
K.
Do you read your posts before posting them?
Or maybe you just think everyone on the Internet is a fucking moron?
This is the most transparent brand-stanning bullshit I've seen lately on the fediverse.
Maybe the problem is getting hung up on the idea of "Mastodon"? One Twitter-like throwback software that reminds you of what used-to-be?
Admit it. Twitter is dead and oh well.
Long live independent, free, open-source social media!
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kcarruthersreplied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova yup and the sad thing is that bsky is centralised and thus subject to similar centralisation risks as twitter was. It’s a pity mastodon has not been as welcoming
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Lorenzo 'kelset' Sciandrareplied to kcarruthers last edited by
@kcarruthers @o_simardcasanova I share the same concern - to me right now the saving grace for using Mastodon is relying on @elk as web client.
I'm surprised about Bluesky tho; I've been on it since the very beginning but I find it somewhat dead, and only the same like 10 people are tweeting like crazy over there. Threads is having much more variety and I see a lot of non-tech-people migrating to that.
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kurtshreplied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova @rscottjones @wonkothesane I've found that there is a fundamental disagreement about the critical importance of adoption & usage.
Despite usage & adoption being the universal metric for social network value, Fediverse flagwavers in a fit of wishful thinking, love to say that "active usage isn't important" & "quality of experience is what matters".
This armchair analysis isn't simply not useful - it's patently wrong. Ask any social network researcher. Usage + Adoption = Value.
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Renaud Chaputreplied to Lorenzo 'kelset' Sciandra last edited by
@kelset out of curiosity, have you tried the built il webui lately? What do you find better in Elk?
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@rscottjones @o_simardcasanova @wonkothesane That’s dishonest and filled with cope. It’s not as easy as Bluesky onboarding. Also, it’s not just what users want. The creator of mastodon has come out and said he wants 100 million mastodon users. So their perspective is very in line when you factor in what the creator is aiming for
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Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋replied to Word of Mouth 🍄 :emacs: last edited by
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damonreplied to Sharon of the Strange Times last edited by
@idoubtit @o_simardcasanova you don’t know what it’s destined for, you don’t know the future. Besides it’s significantly more diverse, people actually like that in a social platform, that may be a foreign concept to you. But people like to be social on social networks
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damonreplied to Grant 🇺🇦ArmUkraine🇺🇦 last edited by [email protected]
@Grant_M @o_simardcasanova it’s not owned by a billionaire please go to Twitter if you want to spread lies and propaganda
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Clément CGreplied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova @notroot @idoubtit At first, I was wondering “What kind of anti-social behavior is he referring to ?”… and then, I read the previous response. Wow… some answers are truly stunning.
Anyway, many good points mentioned, sad outcome for Mastodon, but I also believe it is here to stay, on its niche, just differently ️
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Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋replied to Clément CG last edited by
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@damon @o_simardcasanova Don't tell me where to go.
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Concept of a Wraithereplied to Olivier Simard-Casanova 🦋 last edited by
@o_simardcasanova @cl3mcg @notroot @idoubtit Yeah, I’m a big booster for “fedi” (can we please get a better name? And yes I know, we cannot )
But the weird “sport team” hostility that people engage in is really a huge problem and HAS been.
I’m very pro-mastodon (fedi) AND Bluesky, but Mastos biggest problem is people who say they’re supporting Mastodon and behaving in a way that’s guaranteed to be offputting.
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@Grant_M @o_simardcasanova nah I absolutely can. If you can spread lies and continue on the nonsense then I can engage similarly
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@damon @o_simardcasanova Piss off, authoritarian dictator.